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re: Being realistic here, with Texas & Oklahoma coming in,
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:51 pm to 3down10
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:51 pm to 3down10
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It's because Alabama played poorly.
Because Alabama sucks this year.
And honestly, it was the refs that threw the game in Bama's favor.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:53 pm to dbeck
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Alabama has had every SEC school plus Texas circled all off-season.
And Alabama (and Georgia) is getting everyone’s best game. It’s a dogfight.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:53 pm to dbeck
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Texas has had Alabama and Oklahoma circled all off-season. Alabama has had every SEC school plus Texas circled all off-season.
Clownery.....
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:09 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Oh please....
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This is delusional happy talk.
You really know how to make a great point.
Did you see Will Anderson lined up offsides on those plays? One of them was on 3rd down and would have ended the drive well out of FG range, and got the defense off the field. Instead, it negated the loss of yards on the play and gave Texas a 1st down. That drive would end up leading to 3 points for Texas.
So again, even if you think the penalty was correct, that was Alabama screwing itself.
Next drive. Texas has some success in the air. Worthy makes a great catch and..get a 15 yard personal foul called on the Alabama defender to go along with it. Penalty isn't a huge deal because it was already on the 3 just moved it to the 1. I assume it's like 1.5 or some shite being half the distance.
Then on the very next play, Ewers gets injured. In this play, Alabama is called for roughing the passer, which was a totally bullshite call. Adding to that, he throws the ball out of the endzone a good bit. Instead of it being about 1st and goal from about the 10 or 12, Alabama gets penalized and makes it first and less than 1 from the goal.
Texas on the previous drive isn't able to punch it in for a TD from less than 10 yards. But on the next play, they go in for the easy run.
10 points, more than half the points Texas scored in the game off these 2 drives. Both the result of extended drives and/or positioning due to Alabama's penalties.
Texas never scored another TD in the game.
Their next FG comes in the 3rd quarter. In which they started the drive in Alabama territory, and 15 of the 24 yards they moved before kicking came off a personal foul from Will Anderson(not sure what he was thinking). So again, Alabama mistakes = Texas points.
Next FG comes in the 4th quarter, but started at the end of the 3rd. Texas moved the ball pretty well, moving about 50 yards total over the drive. However, 20 of those yards came from what? Alabama penalties.
The last FG for Texas is the only scoring drive Texas made that didn't benefit from penalties. And that ended up being a 41 yard FG.
And again. You can say the penalties were good calls or whatever, doesn't really matter. The fact of the matter is Texas only had success when Alabama made big mistakes.
And we aren't even looking at the drive where they missed the FG. In which 30 yards off the top of my head were given to PI. Again, say they were justified or whatever, but the fact remains every scoring drive and potential score drive outside the last one came with lots of Alabama penalties.
And we are only looking at when Texas had the ball. If we want to nit pick, the play prior to the controversial safety or no safety someone from the Texas Student section threw a water bottle and hit an Alabama player. That should have been a 15 yard penalty with Alabama on the 19.
And then on the controversial play, the refs made a call, and then said after "well we made a mistake and I misheard the call" as a means to overturn the part of the play that wasn't reviewable. Do I really care, no because overall I think the play was called correctly in the end. But if you want to talk about what the refs helping someone, it was clearly Texas at that point of the replay review.
There were numerous times when even the Fox broadcasters mentioned Texas getting away with things here and there.
So at best, I would say the major difference between Alabama and Texas this past weekend was Alabama got called for almost everything possible, and then some. While Texas didn't have their shite called basically ever, outside things like false starts.
If you think the refs are going to call games like that in the SEC, you got another thing coming. Again, say it's because Alabama buys the refs or whatever, don't care. Either way, same result.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:09 pm to Landmass
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And honestly, it was the refs that threw the game in Bama's favor.
Not even close.
The fact of the matter is Texas scored 3 points without the help of the refs.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:16 pm to MullenBoys
I seem to have missed the part where Texas won the game.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:20 pm to GregAl
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I seem to have missed the part where Texas won the game.
They identified as winners of the game, respect their feelings.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:22 pm to Basura Blanco
Both programs can compete with anyone when they are hitting on all cylinders.
Playoffs were expanded to 12 teams, the future SEC will not cannibalize itself.
Playoffs were expanded to 12 teams, the future SEC will not cannibalize itself.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:23 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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Last year everyone was ready to crown Florida champs in the east because they played a close game with Bama.
Can you spell Gasparilla Bowl?
This. Texas was UP big for this game. And give them credit, they played great and honestly should have won.
But that is one week. How would they do if they had to play Arkansas next? Then MSU? Then Auburn? Etc.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:27 pm to Lynxrufus2012
quote:Very true, and something I've tried to tell my friends in Austin.
Last year everyone was ready to crown Florida champs in the east because they played a close game with Bama.
Can you spell Gasparilla Bowl?
It's not a bad thing to take away positives from last Saturday's game, a game in which Texas was in position to win, after every single pundit and talking head and fan (Texas fans included) expected a thorough beatdown.
But there are no moral victories.
Just because Auburn was able to keep Alabama tight in a clunker of a game in 2021 doesn't mean that Auburn fans are at all pleased with the overall product the 2021 team produced.
Gotta move forward. If Texas can build on this and give similar performances consistently, maybe then the narrative of them being destroyed in the SEC can finally die. Until then, there's plenty of respect still to be earned
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:29 pm to OU Guy
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Conferences go in cycles too, I recall the Big 12 South had the best division in college for a spell.
When, exactly, was that?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:32 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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How would they do if they had to play Arkansas next? Then MSU? Then Auburn? Etc.
Probably about the same as if they had to play K-State, Iowa State, TCU, etc.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:33 pm to hogtard
It was pretty salty in 2008 when each of Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma finished the regular season 11-1 and all three were ranked in the top 8 teams in the country.
Early in Bob Stoops and Mack Brown's careers, each of the teams were finishing in the top 5 in the country while Alabama, the Mississippi schools and others in the SEC were going through some downtrodden periods as well.
It's definitely not what it used to be now
Early in Bob Stoops and Mack Brown's careers, each of the teams were finishing in the top 5 in the country while Alabama, the Mississippi schools and others in the SEC were going through some downtrodden periods as well.
It's definitely not what it used to be now
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:40 pm to MullenBoys
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Both have great football history. How many years does it take in the SEC grind to admit " This grind is a lot harder than we thought" ?
Year 3? Thats what I'm thinking.
One of the things that may backfire on us is that the last ten yrs or so we all have been poaching players from their recruiting geography because they could come play in the SEC instead of the minor league Big12. Soon that pitch goes away.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:41 pm to XWing atAliciousness
Rumors bouncing around today that we might to go the SEC next season. Big 12 having 4 teams coming in 2023 and with the OU/Texas cancelling OOC games with the SEC right now, they might be lining up the conference split and scheduling for next season. Only rumors from what I've seen, but it makes total sense after the UT vs Bama game with the huge viewership numbers.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:46 pm to Hornish Kin
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I’m concerned the SEC underestimates Texas’ ability to come in and compete immediately. Predictions on this board about the Texas/Ala game now seem silly, in light of what we saw on Saturday. Ala’s team didn’t suddenly change. It is the same team that everyone said was so great. And it may be a great team. It beat Texas by a point with a load of help.
PSA... No one in the SEC refers to them as "Ala".
It's Alabama, Bama, or (preferred) Gumps.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:29 pm to MullenBoys
OU’s BCSNCG/CFP record against the SEC is evident enough of how tough it will be.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:42 pm to OU Guy
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The reason SEC has done great in playoffs is because the other conferences are built differently - the SEC top teams are defense oriented.
I think most would agree with over a month to prepare for playoffs this favors defense over offense. Easier to slow down an offense. OU had some of the most prolific offenses ever and yet had a crappy D. That did them in in playoffs.
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