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re: Bama's 2020 national title...let's clear the air.

Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:26 pm to
I think not having fans in the stands helps the best teams get through their schedule without an upset. That said, I think the season most definitely counts and does not deserve an asterisk. I'd also say you are just gonna be more prone to make mistakes with a loaded stadium, even at home. And mistakes are kind of like rolling the dice. They can be costly or not costly just depending on when and where they are made.

The NCAA field as a whole was down that year as many teams didn't play and some that did, didn't play much more than half a normal schedule. Bama played two extra conference games though and the rest of the season was normal in terms of scheduling.

That season counts. I still don't think it was as impressive as LSU's 2019.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 6:27 pm
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:29 pm to
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2020 Alabama was a machine, a machine that could compete with anyone anywhere in any era based on the players on the field.


This is a completely subjective opinion. The best teams have the best resume. Bama did not in 2020. You have the dubious priveledge of defeating the least impressive championship contender in the history of the sport in 6 win Ohio state. Hey, you guys won every game. I’ve got no problem saying your title is legit. Saying you’re one of the best of all time? Nope, you need to play the best and face the best. Sorry 2020 you didn’t do either.

What gives the Greatest Generation their moniker? Oh well they won the 2nd world war. The greatest war ever. Some dipshit didn’t just anoint them they were the best generation bc it’s his stupid opinion. If you want to be named the best you need to beat the best. I didn’t make the rules.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:42 pm to
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The best teams have the best resume


No they don’t. That is a ridiculous statement. There are tons of examples of teams with crappy resumes beating the hell out of teams with much better resumes.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:55 pm to
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Games played in half empty stadiums, opt-outs and Ohio State was a six win team at the end of the day. To be honest I have no beef with calling it a legit championship. A season was played and they were clearly the best team of the season. My issue is when these Bammers try to elevate them into the greatest team ever discussions. Winning the title against a six win team is some 19th century BS


It’s incredible anyone argues with this. It’s a title. The season was played. Greatest of all time? Get the frick of out here.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:56 pm to
A lot of players sat out that season and the other conferences on average didn’t play near as many games as the SEC.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:01 pm to
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No they don’t. That is a ridiculous statement. There are tons of examples of teams with crappy resumes beating the hell out of teams with much better resumes.


So you’re saying 2019 LSU being listed as one of the greatest teams of all time has nothing to do with how many ranked teams they defeated? Or beating a Clemson team that had won 29 straight games and was the reigning national champ?

Or defeating (12-2) #4 Georgia by 27 points, #4 (12-1) Oklahoma by 35 points, and #2 Clemson by 17 points in the SEC championship, Semis, and national championship game , respectively. I mean those 3 games alone are more impressive objectively than the Tides entire 13 game schedule in 2020.

And you’re saying a team being judged on the caliber of teams they play and defeated has nothing to do with being named the GOAT? Lmao ok dude.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:18 pm to
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If you really don’t see the difference between playing against a team in the SEC with 100,000 screaming fans vs 10,000 I don’t know what to tell you. Other than that you probably don’t understand the subtleties of the game.


Weird how the same applied to teams coming to Alabama and it didn't seem to help them out.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
25158 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:29 pm to
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So you’re saying 2019 LSU being listed as one of the greatest teams of all time has nothing to do with how many ranked teams they defeated?


I am not saying it has nothing to do with it. But it is mainly based upon the eye test and the insane amount of talent they had on the field. People think they are great because of how they looked. They aren’t thinking about the number of ranked teams they played, margin of victory, or even who all they beat. They remember watching them and thinking “wow, this team looks like one of the best teams ever”. The NFL draft and NFL success - fair or unfair - also influences it. I typed “best college football teams of all time” into Google and this is what it spit out.

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The Top Contenders

1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers: Finished 12-0 and won every game by at least 14 points, destroying No. 2 Florida 62-24 in the Fiesta Bowl. Many experts view them as the most relentlessly dominant rushing attack and team ever.

2001 Miami Hurricanes: Finished 12-0 with a national title, featuring an absurd 38 future NFL draft picks including Ed Reed, Andre Johnson, and Clinton Portis. They gave up only 9.4 points per game.

2019 LSU Tigers: Finished 15-0 running an all-time offensive juggernaut led by Heisman winner Joe Burrow alongside superstars Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson, setting an FBS record with 726 total points.

2020 Alabama Crimson Tide: Went 11-0 in an all-SEC regular season schedule, steamrolling opponents behind Heisman winner DeVonta Smith and quarterback Mac Jones


For the most part they don’t talk about resumes, they talk about the players they had. All those teams had a ridiculous amount of talent on the field.

If your argument was correct, that teams with better resumes are the better team, the Big 10 would not have won the national championship the past three seasons. Because some of those teams had much softer resumes than teams they beat.

Posted by OlDirtyTiger7
Member since Sep 2017
675 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:48 pm to
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LSU fans convinced themselves LSU was going to be dynastic.


Literally nobody was saying this, you are just making shite up. We lost the vast majority of the starters from that team to the draft, and our head coach was still Ed Orgeron.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3188 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:13 pm to
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Three of the last four games


Interesting sample size
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:27 pm to
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It was an impressive win but it's not like Alabama has ever been known for its "home field advantage." There are many more stadiums in the SEC more infamous for their crowd noise than Bryant-Denny.


Thanks for proving the point that BDS isn't this super hostile environment for away teams like all the talking heads and video game people hype it up as
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4593 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:47 pm to
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For the most part they don’t talk about resumes, they talk about the players they had. All those teams had a ridiculous amount of talent on the field. If your argument was correct, that teams with better resumes are the better team, the Big 10 would not have won the national championship the past three seasons. Because some of those teams had much softer resumes than teams they beat.


You literally just said resume didn’t matter at all in your previous post lmao. Now it’s “well it didn’t matter that much.” Unbelievable.


And Really? Resume “isn’t that important”? So they don’t use strength of schedule in determining who gets into the playoffs? Bc that’s what a resume is after all. Or they didn’t use the resume or strength of schedule as a mathematical algo in the BCS standings?

I mean if your resume which is who you play and defeat, isn’t important , than why didnt 12-0 Hawaii get a shot at the national title in 07? 12-0 Boise in 2006? 12-0 Utah in 07. Undefeated Cincinnati in 2020?

Why did Bama get to play LSU again in a rematch in 2012? Surely strength of schedule and their resume has nothing to do with it as you say ? What a fricking retarded hill to die on. Being a homer Bama fan and never being able to concede has to be exhausting, well maybe if you had a fricking brain lmao
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4593 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:51 pm to
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The Top Contenders 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers: Finished 12-0 and won every game by at least 14 points, destroying No. 2 Florida 62-24 in the Fiesta Bowl. Many experts view them as the most relentlessly dominant rushing attack and team ever.


Defeated 4 top 10 teams.

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2001 Miami Hurricanes: Finished 12-0 with a national title, featuring an absurd 38 future NFL draft picks including Ed Reed, Andre Johnson, and Clinton Portis. They gave up only 9.4 points per game.


Defeated 5 top 15 teams.

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2019 LSU Tigers: Finished 15-0 running an all-time offensive juggernaut led by Heisman winner Joe Burrow alongside superstars Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson, setting an FBS record with 726 total points.


Defeated 6 top 10 teams and the 3 of the top 4 teams by an average of 4 touchdowns.

2020 Bama
Defeated an Ohio State team in the national championship that won 6 games.

Just bc you don’t choose to include essential details doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter you fricking moron.


This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 9:55 pm
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13590 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:57 pm to
Pains me to say it…but that was one of the best college teams ever to strap it up.
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
4485 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:42 pm to
The only people that I know who were butt hurt about that team was LSU fans. They thought no one would ever surpass their alleged GOAT team from the year before. All we did in a pandemic shortened season was play 13 straight Power Five teams, 11 different SEC teams and manhandled two legendary programs in the playoffs.

Did I mention we won every damn offensive award except for the TE award which deservedly went to Kyle Pitts. I’ll also say to this day DeVonta Smith is the greatest wide receiver in college football history. He wasn’t like Jamarr Chase who sat out the season for the draft.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:57 pm to
2009 Alabama

Florida and Texas were a combined 26-0 when NOT playing Alabama and 0-2 when playing Alabama. Beat both by 2+ TDs.

2020 Alabama

Beat 4 top 7 teams, only had one game all season within 1 score.

That said... if your argument is resume based, then 2019 LSU and everyone else takes a backseat to 1945 Army.

Beat 4 top 10 teams, Won three straight against top 6 teams by a combined 141-13. Undefeated AND beat Germany and Japan.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5862 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:23 am to
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2020 Bama Defeated an Ohio State team in the national championship that won 6 games.

2020 Bama and OSU combined for seven first round draft picks and 20 overall picks the following spring. (19/20 played in the championship.) Whether they played 6 games, 12 games, or whatever, beforehand, that’s a lot of talent on the field.

For reference, 1995 Nebraska and Florida (in the infamous Fiesta Bowl) combined for just one first round draft pick and 12 overall picks.

1995 Nebraska and all of their opponents combined had just 2 first rounders. 2020 Bama had/faced 11 first rounders, 2019 LSU had/faced 18 first rounders, and 2025 Indiana had/faced 14 first rounders (16 if you count Oregon twice).

1995 Nebraska also only played 12 games. 2020 Bama played 13, 2019 LSU played 15, and 2025 Indiana played 16.

Yet no one criticizes 1995 Nebraska for the low number of games played and the lack of NFL ready talent they faced - or had - compared to other GOAT contenders.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29728 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:29 am to
Legit title.
Historically great team.
LSU fans jimmies continue to rustle.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
25158 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:46 am to
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You literally just said resume didn’t matter at all in your previous post lmao. Now it’s “well it didn’t matter that much.” Unbelievable.


Correct, in head to head match ups resumes do not matter.

When people are evaluating “best teams” resume does matter, but it isn’t all that matters as you are arguing.

You said the team with the better resume is always the better team. Actual results show this is false. Don’t try to sidewalk, I mean sidestep, your earlier statements.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
25158 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:52 am to
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Just bc you don’t choose to include essential details doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter you fricking moron.


I copy and pasted from google you fricking moron. Clearly the details you are so worked up over don’t matter to them.

You have a severe case of the red arse. It is surprising to see it from a supposed Florida fan.
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