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re: Bama has 1 NC in the AP/Coaches Polls era since 1936 without Bear Bryant or Nick Saban
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:57 pm to BlackCloud
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:57 pm to BlackCloud
And a lot more with them. Odd melt, baw.
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Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:27 pm to Othello
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Remember when LSU won a title 4 years ago and that night Herbstreit said they had a cultural problem
I don't remember that, i was too busy celebrating the GOAT 15-0 season.
How many CFB programs do you think could win a NC with this guy?
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Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:10 pm to captdalton
I guess the TS doesn't realize that you can take Bryant and Saban away and Bama still has more natties than LSU.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:30 pm to BlackCloud
Except for the 13 national titles in 49 years of Bryant, Saban, and Stallings why didn’t you win more?
Well , why didn’t all your coaches ever win half that many ?
Duhhh
Well , why didn’t all your coaches ever win half that many ?
Duhhh
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:40 pm to BlackCloud
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I agree, but they have not shown that they can win NC's in the AP era outside of the two greatest coaches in CFB, EVER. That's just a fact.
This is your hill to die on? In the past 65 years LSU has two, TWO AP titles…won by 2 different coaches. Alabama has 12 AP titles, won by 3 different coaches. Get the frick out of here.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:41 pm to GoGators1995
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I guess the TS doesn't realize that you can take Bryant and Saban away and Bama still has more natties than LSU.
quote:I guess TS doesn't understand that the OP covers only the AP/Coaches Poll era as is clearly stated.
GoGators1995
Bama has 13 AP/Coaches Poll NCs in this era and only 1 other than Nick and Bear.
Anything else they "claim" are not legit IMO.
LSU has 3 NCs other than Nick in the same era. Glad I could clear this up for ya.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:49 pm to captdalton
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you remove Bryant’s and Saban’s tenures at Alabama, you are left with 23 seasons. During these 23 years, Alabama had
There’s 45 seasons removing their tenure from pol era 1936-present.
Looks like you chose the seasons between Bryant to Saban as the “worst” for Alabama. Which 1936 to Bryant (1958), was the worst stretch.
But let’s compare 1936-present, removing best coaches. Alabama (Bryant / Saban) to LSU removing (Dietzel / McClendon / Saban / Miles )this also keeps amount of seasons being compared similar (42 seasons to 45) and removing multiple 10win season, SEC titles, and NC for LSU but keeping worst period of 90s.
Alabama
Win %63
1 NC
5 sec
10win - 10
LSU
Win %59
1 NC
5 sec
10win - 6
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:53 pm to bstew3006
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There’s 45 seasons removing their tenure from pol era 1936-present. Looks like you chose the seasons between Bryant to Saban as the “worst” for Alabama. Which 1936 to Bryant (1958), was the worst stretch. But let’s compare 1936-present, removing best coaches. Alabama (Bryant / Saban) to LSU removing (Dietzel / McClendon / Saban / Miles )this also keeps amount of seasons being compared similar (42 seasons to 45) and removing multiple 10win season, SEC titles, and NC for LSU but keeping worst period of 90s. Alabama Win %63 1 NC 5 sec 10win - 10 LSU Win %59 1 NC 5 sec 10win - 6
Cool. Nevertheless, in the past 65 years LSU has two, TWO AP titles…won by 2 different coaches. Alabama has 12 AP titles, won by 3 different coaches. So much in-state talent, why is it so hard to succeed at LSU?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:56 pm to BlackCloud
Alabama has natty's under Wallace Wade, Frank Thomas, Coach Bryant, Stallings, and Saban. Even if you just want to start with Bryant it's 13. We're good.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:02 pm to thatthang
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Cool. Nevertheless, in the past 65 years LSU has two, TWO AP titles…won by 2 different coaches. Alabama has 12 AP titles, won by 3 different coaches. So much in-state talent, why is it so hard to succeed at LSU?
Cool. Nevertheless, in the last 65 years Alabama has 1 AP title when removing Bryant / Saban. LSU has 4 titles. Discuss
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:07 pm to Bama54
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So? Made a LOT of bad hires after Coach Bryant. There were too many "bosses."
Seems as though you're reverting back to that.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:08 pm to BlackCloud
Well dabo is 2-1 against bama in national championships
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:08 pm to thatthang
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Cool. Nevertheless, in the past 65 years LSU has two, TWO AP titles…won by 2 different coaches.
You know you are getting desperate when you start using arbitrary time frames.
The OP is about the entire AP/Coaches poll era since 1936 and includes both or either poll champions.
You can torture the facts/dates all you want but my original post stands.
Bama has 1 AP/Coaches poll NC outside of Bear and Nick.
LSU has 3 AP/Coaches poll NCs outside of Nick.
Conclusion, until bama wins another NC with a coach that isn't considered a GOAT
people like me will point this out just for fun when it's freezing outside!
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:17 pm to BlackCloud
quote:The point is Alabama seems to attract one guy who was the greatest when he retired, and another who is the greatest when he retired, both of whom retired from Bama.
The point should be obvious.
Which greatest coach ever retired from your school?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:22 pm to llfshoals
quote:True, but the other 45 years since the AP era started had only 1 NC. This is fun!
The point is Alabama seems to attract one guy who was the greatest when he retired, and another who is the greatest when he retired, both of whom retired from Bama.
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Which greatest coach ever retired from your school?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:29 pm to BlackCloud
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The OP is about the enitre AP/Coaches poll era since 1936 and includes both or either poll champions.
I didn’t read, nor respond to OP. I responded to your post that simply referenced the “AP Era.” So I looked it up, and was surprised by what I found in terms of how few LSU had won: in 65 years, they have only won 2. Over the entire existence of the AP poll, they have won only 3. Only 3 LSU coaches have gotten it done. All of that is wild, would have thought LSU had more titles than that. Thanks for bringing attention to LSU’s mediocre AP success.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:16 pm to thatthang
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Over the entire existence of the AP poll, they have won only 3. Only 3 LSU coaches have gotten it done. All of that is wild, would have thought LSU had more titles than that.
LSU has three AP titles and one Coaches/BCS Title which equals 4.
Those 4 NCs in either the AP and or Coaches poll puts LSU behind only 7 teams:
bama(13),Notre Dame(8),Oklahoma(7),USC(7),Ohio ST.(6),Miami(5) and Nebraska(5).
quote:Only seven teams ahead of LSU in the AP/Coaches poll era is mediocre? OK Bubba!
Thanks for bringing attention to LSU’s mediocre AP success.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:40 pm to BlackCloud
Football started before 1936. Glad I could clear this up for ya!
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:41 pm to BlackCloud
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You know you are getting desperate when you start using arbitrary time frames.
Oh the irony.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:49 pm to bstew3006
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Outside of the two greatest, Alabama is pedestrian AF.
Which is a shock to Alabama fans as they believe it’s not the coaches, it’s bc their “Alabama”
You all are proving you are idiots.
Coach Wade at Alabama, 8 season, 3 NC, 61-13 record
Coach Thomas at Alabama, 15 seasons, 2 NC, 115-24-7 record
Coach Stallings at Alabama, 7 seasons, 1 NC, 70-16-1
Alabama has won the most bowls, most SEC titles, has winning records over every SEC team, has a winning record over every team they have played 12 or more times.
Coaches Bryant and Saban help those records but they were already mostly that way before either of them
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