
bstew3006
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re: Bullet used to kill charlie kirk cant be matched to Tyler Robinson gun.
Posted by bstew3006 on 3/31/26 at 4:03 pm to the808bass
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No, he didn’t. Why are you lying?
I’m not.
CK was shot from 150yds by 30.06
I compared that to me shooting small animals (coyote, small hog, small deer) with 30.06 from 150yds and never seen bullet NOT exit. Why the small animal? To compare to a 12” soft tissue neck.
He stated:” Well some of us have shot a deer/hog/etc and seen the bullet NOT come out. I feel those of us have a better view on the matter than you.”
This is bad faith as I compared it to small animal, that of a human neck with soft tissue, being shot by 30.06. I didn’t compare it to a large deer, elk, bear…where we’ve all had a bullet not exit. However, I’ve shot large deer in neck at 150yds and never not seen exit wound.
But carry on
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He’s not debating in good faith
Explain
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He’s just trying to troll. Poorly.
What in any of my post is trolling?
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you suggesting he aimed for the neck?
I never made any claim on where he was aiming.
I never denied possibility, but what’s generally expected for a .30-06 at typical velocity on soft tissue of a neck is probability, not certainty. My original post explicitly asked a ballistics expert to explain how a non-exit could happen, not to speculate; I’m simply comparing that to real-world experience with the same caliber. Calling me a conspiracy theorist for reasoning from experience is hypocritical, especially when you assert possibilities without providing any evidence for your claimed expertise which is pure speculation on your part.
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My man. You’re talking in circles.
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Typically? Come on, man. You’ve already admitted that we do not know some extremely pertinent information. You are also making a massive assumption on what the bullet did and did not hit. Literally THE MOST IMPORTANT INFO as to why the bullet did what they claim it did is not known to us, so why are we trying to cast doubt in the form of some conspiracy?
I’m not talking in circles, you’re conflating possibility with probability.
A .30-06 in that range has more than enough energy to pass through soft tissue, even with bone involved. At the same time, it’s possible that, depending on exact conditions, it wouldn’t exit. Both statements can be true.
Acknowledging unknowns doesn’t mean you can’t discuss what’s likely. My opinion is based on real hunting experience with the same caliber. I never spoke in absolutes or suggested a conspiracy, in fact, in my first post I said I’d like a ballistics expert to explain how a non-exit could happen.
You claimed non-exit at 150 yards is very common…but in reality, that’s not typical for this caliber under normal conditions and soft tissue of a neck.
And apparently, just questioning or trying to understand a non-exit makes me a conspiracy theorist, according to you. You also wanted an apology because I gave an opinion, spoke from real world experience, and asked for an explanation. Seems like you’re the one who’s triggered here.
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This is completely diff scenario than CK's. The bullet didn't do a 90deg turn and blow out a series of vertebra. I don't see how this is possible when entering the softist part on a body.
Bingo
You’re arguing details I already acknowledged. We don’t know grain or type, just caliber. and yes, that absolutely matters (soft point vs ballistic tip vs FMJ, etc.).
But the broader point still stands
A 30-06 in the 150–180gr range, even at realistic velocities of 2700-3000fps has more than enough energy to pass through soft tissue, even with bone involved. That’s not controversial….it’s why it’s been a standard hunting round. And my example of small dog, coyote etc stands. How many of those have you shot with 30-06 and not had an exit wound?
Fragmentation doesn’t automatically mean “no exit.” Even with expansion or partial fragmentation, exits are still common…especially on a relatively small cross-section like a neck. We’re not talking about a shoulder shot on an elk, we’re talking about soft tissue and vertebrae.
So sure, is it possible there’s no exit depending on exact conditions? Yes.
But is it what you’d typically expect from that caliber, distance, and target area? Absolutely not and That’s the only point I’m raising.
Pfff, grow up, little man.
But the broader point still stands
A 30-06 in the 150–180gr range, even at realistic velocities of 2700-3000fps has more than enough energy to pass through soft tissue, even with bone involved. That’s not controversial….it’s why it’s been a standard hunting round. And my example of small dog, coyote etc stands. How many of those have you shot with 30-06 and not had an exit wound?
Fragmentation doesn’t automatically mean “no exit.” Even with expansion or partial fragmentation, exits are still common…especially on a relatively small cross-section like a neck. We’re not talking about a shoulder shot on an elk, we’re talking about soft tissue and vertebrae.
So sure, is it possible there’s no exit depending on exact conditions? Yes.
But is it what you’d typically expect from that caliber, distance, and target area? Absolutely not and That’s the only point I’m raising.
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Now that you have no leg to stand on I will accept your apology for espousing your opinion with no actual basis for the formation of said opinion.
Pfff, grow up, little man.
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Well some of us have shot a deer/hog/etc and seen the bullet NOT come out. I feel those of us have a better view on the matter than you.
It was his neck, about 12”-13” in circumference.
That’s like shooting a small dog, let’s say a mini schmuazer. But since you have shot deer and hog, go shoot an 80lb doe or small 50lb hog with 155g 30-06 and see what happens.
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A: you don’t know what type of bullet it was
It’s a 30-06. We don’t know the grain, or I haven’t seen it disclosed. But most common is 150-180g. That’s moving at 3,000fps.
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B: you don’t know what all that bullet hit
Soft tissue and possible vertebrate. Again, I’ve never seen a 30-06 bullet not exit small game (coyote, small hog, small deer). We’re talking about his neck. Now since you’ve shot deer too and I’m sure you’ve shot a few in the neck, I’ve never seen a deer neck stop a 30-06 bullet.
re: Bullet used to kill charlie kirk cant be matched to Tyler Robinson gun.
Posted by bstew3006 on 3/31/26 at 8:42 am to the808bass
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What’s odd is that we have someone with means, motive and opportunity. Someone who confessed. And someone who matches up with the evidence. But you’re chasing hobgoblins into the night.
No, I’m wondering how a 155g to 185g 30-06 didn’t go in/out of 12” neck. It’s a simple ballistics question. His vertebrate didn’t stop the bullet or frag it. But if it did frag, not 1 frag exited? If you’ve ever shot a deer, hog, etc and seen a 30-06 go in, break bone and exit…then you understand the question.
I just want an expert to explain how a shot of 150yds with a 30-06 doesn’t pass through his neck. I’ve shot a lot of deer with 30-06 from that distance and always in/out.
both can be true since ..
1. He stated this the weeks leading up and during AM game.
2. The story broke well before he posted anything.
He’s a mushroom insider - Fed shite and kept in the dark.
1. He stated this the weeks leading up and during AM game.
2. The story broke well before he posted anything.
He’s a mushroom insider - Fed shite and kept in the dark.
re: Scone update
Posted by bstew3006 on 3/26/26 at 8:03 am to shiftworker
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I remember him saying on air that this wouldn’t happen. Unequivocally.
He also stated BK wouldn’t be fired. “I’m an insider, you don’t have to believe me, but I am and there’s no appetite to fire Kelly”.
“I broke the story on Kelly being fired”.
Baseball is hard
Hitting a baseball is extremely hard
However, I can’t recall another player present / past that is constantly in more 0-2 / 1-2 counts like Curiel.
Hitting a baseball is extremely hard
However, I can’t recall another player present / past that is constantly in more 0-2 / 1-2 counts like Curiel.
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Oh give me a break. You’re not a true Trump fan.
I’m a conservative, not a “fan” of anyone.
But sure, let’s hear him scream about Epstein and the evils then when files are released just to say “move on”, and get over it.
Kinda like the left told us on Hillary’s emails…right.
Then why does he want the American ppl to move on from it?
Voted for him 3 times, but his current stance of “move on from this” is complete BS.
Voted for him 3 times, but his current stance of “move on from this” is complete BS.
re: Boebert: it’s WAY darker than anyone imagined,
Posted by bstew3006 on 2/12/26 at 1:19 pm to omegaman66
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False
You got me, giuffre named 6 ppl
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The DOJ will not interview the victims, accept their criminal complaints and investigate said criminal complaints. See the problem?
You’re taking my post as a defense of DOJ, it’s not. It’s pointing out Washington protecting Washington.
And again, so much grandstanding by these politicians, yet not 1 “leaked” report… nothing. It’s so dark, yet not 1 un redacted leak.
Shows that it’s 99% of them…even the ones you vote for. Also, the victims not coming out in mass is strange
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She says it’s WAY darker than anyone imagined, torture emails, constant references to “consumption,” a place literally called “The Cannibal” restaurant, and code words like “jerky” and “human meat” being thrown around like it’s nothing.
Yet, not 1 name leaked… in a place that leaks like a Seive
Not 1 victim coming out and naming ppl
re: Alex Box is WAY BEHIND Tenn and MSU
Posted by bstew3006 on 2/12/26 at 9:01 am to Covingtontiger77
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The Box is not fitting for the top program in college baseball.
What upgrades do you want?
Alex Box is a pretty damn good stadium. But some of act like Alex Box should mirror the ATL Braves and be surrounded by the battery.
re: Here’s what Trump did while America slept
Posted by bstew3006 on 2/10/26 at 11:33 am to Bass Tiger
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like it all ^^^^. Now it's time for Trump 2.0 to mash the MAGA accelerator to the floor and let the political chips fall where they may. There is no 2nd chance in the future, this is the 2nd chance right now!!!!
Didn’t he say, just last week, that everyone needs to move on from this?
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A head of state of a foreign country vs a terrorist
He’s a dictator that was voted out but refused to leave. He jailed and killed citizens and politicians that opposed him…. I thought you supported the no kings protest?
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