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re: Arch Manning 5 star only b/c name per Mike Farrell

Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97060 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:08 pm to
Arch is the perfect recruit for Texas

Hyped due to name only. Will be a massive disappointment
Posted by LSUrme
CTC
Member since Oct 2005
5340 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:11 pm to
Newman ensuring the rest of the country doesn't see what South Louisiana saw last year.

They turned down nationally televised ESPN games for the fall and are only playing in-state schools for Arch's senior year.

Newman Football Schedule 2022
Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2594 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:11 pm to
Not really relevant. But there’s been a few. Usually always instate kids. Kiyuanta Goodwin especially comes to mind. He dropped in the rankings after he committed.
Posted by All Gas No Brakes
Member since Jul 2021
864 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:21 pm to
It’s always seemed relevant to me to see who is recruiting a kid.

If you have top programs all vying for a 3 star, maybe it’s an indicator that guy is under ranked. Similarly, if there is a 5 star not getting much attention from the top schools he could be overrated.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2098 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:22 pm to
If he were really the top recruit, he would be committed to another school.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84838 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:29 pm to
Lol pretty much. He didn’t even choose an SEC team. He scared asf, will xfer from Texas to smaller school.
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:52 pm to
Arch Manning thowing at Clemson Camp
Arch Manning Throw Breakdown

Video breakdown of Arch at Clemsons Camp June '21
Performance Lab of California
Quarterback University

Shouldn't be any surpise he has excellent mechanics given he has been groomed to be a QB since birth.

Good foot work, pump fake, ball flip, quick release, tight spiral > 5*

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84838 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:13 pm to
You must recruit for a living. Probably not though.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29168 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:22 pm to
The kid has been so hyped up. It will be hard for him to live up to the expectations. I hope people give him time to develop in college. I will be pulling for him.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29168 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Similarly, if there is a 5 star not getting much attention from the top schools he could be overrated.




this isn't a real thing. A highly rated kid is going to get recruited heavily from the top schools on rating alone.


ETA the star system is a scam. I saw it first hand. There was a local kid, in the last decade, that signed with bama. He was the #9 rated player in the nation........overall. He wasn't the best player on his HS team. He had that ranking because bama was after him hard and heavy. He didn't pan out for bama.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46208 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:30 pm to
There is no position with more complete bust in college and pros than QB, there are probably as many starting QBs in NFL that where 3 stars as 5 stars. it’s by far the most difficult position to evaluate
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12966 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:12 pm to
No shite.
Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2594 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:15 pm to
Yeah I see what you’re saying. Wasn’t sure where you were going with it at first
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31197 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

How many recruits are 5 stars because who is recruiting them? I still think the recruiting services main purpose is to bring the websites the maximum money vs accurate information.
5*’s get drafted pretty high regardless of which team recruited them.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14026 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

I'm not pulling against the guy or anything, but it is pretty obvious that he received a huge artificial rating bump because of his name.


I am not pulling for the guy or anything, but the genes that go along with that name have proven to be worth an extra star rating.
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
2884 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:29 pm to
We recruited him and would have taken him but we signed Eli Holstein first and then Lonergran after Arch committed to Texas and I am extremely happy with those 2 instead of Arch. Good luck to him, he's going to be a distraction (not his fault) because of his name.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2098 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:59 pm to
Well it’s a good thing he’s going to Texas where they develop players, make them better and get 5 stars drafted in the first round.

Oh wait!
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33238 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:40 am to
I was curious and compared the stats of Arch Manning to Malachi Nelson, Nicholaus Iamaleava, and Eli Holstein.

I thought the QB Rating was most interesting, along with yards per game, because I noted that Arch only played 7 games last year.

Passer Rating:
Arch Manning - 105.8
Malachi Nelson - 121.8
Nicholaus Iamaleava - 124.1
Eli Holstein - 122.9


YPG:
Arch Manning - 195.9
Malachi Nelson - 244.5
Nicholaus Iamaleava - 249.3
Eli Holstein - 217.6

Out of the 4 QBs, he was 3rd in TD/G, 3rd in INT/Att, and 2nd best rushing QB (but a distant second).

He has great mechanics in controlled environments, but it doesn't look like those translate to on the field performance. So either he abandons those mechanics in the face of pressure, or there's another factor.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
2297 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:20 am to
If true that he is limited he probably won’t start......or it will be another Kansas win in Austin.....
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
4707 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:23 am to
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With Isidore Newman as a junior last season, he threw for 1,913 yards and 26 touchdowns


What a joke
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