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re: A young Steve Spurrier would be an 8 win/year coach in the modern SEC?

Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:13 am to
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:13 am to
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I don’t have a clue who the Kevin Bennett guy who posted that is. But I do know he is a fricking idiot.
allegedly, according to some on IF Twitter, he posts on the rant under the username “ForeverGator”

Allegedly.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
8601 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:13 am to
Joe Rice would've given the HBC a blank NIL check(s) were it allowable from 2005-2014 ...Steve still managed to get some serious talent to Carolina before he just turned a blind eye to Junior & Whammy's poor evals/offers -

Head Ball Coach would kill it a Florida in the current NIL landscape - that "7 or 8 wins" ...would be 7 or 8 SEC wins per season - there's not a defense that exists even in 2024 HBC couldn't get guys open to put points on the board -
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
10078 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:52 am to
Do the people who point out Spurrier wasn’t as successful at South Carolina as he was at Florida ever realize that part of that likely had something to do with the fact that one of those jobs was at FLORIDA while the other was at SOUTH CAROLINA?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22721 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:35 pm to
A very compelling argument could be made that Spurrier was the best coach Florida, South Carolina and Duke ever had.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10206 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:45 pm to
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For example, look at how Spurrier did as the SEC evolved. At S.Carolina he won 8 or less in 7 of his 11 seasons and 7 or less in 6 of 11
I can’t believe that he typed this out like this was some glaring proof that he couldn’t keep up when the SEC “evolved.” He was winning at fricking South Carolina. Give him the athletes that Florida was pulling in and he has more NC.
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
5830 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:05 pm to
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RollTide1987


Agreed. There are a few coaches who made others change because of their offensive and defensive schemes... SOS is one of them.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18432 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:39 pm to
As was stated earlier in this thread, his offenses were the reason why SEC opponents had to have fast defenses. The typical SEC OLB in a 4-3 defense was going to get eaten alive by the slot receiver playing zone and definitely man when Spurrier brought in the Fun n Gun.

The Star position and recruiting for players with that versatility are a direct result of Spurrier's offense and its impacts.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
8728 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Do the people who point out Spurrier wasn’t as successful at South Carolina as he was at Florida ever realize that part of that likely had something to do with the fact that one of those jobs was at FLORIDA while the other was at SOUTH CAROLINA?


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Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Spurrier forced teams to abandon using mushcamp and smart on defense when they played at uga

You had to put athletes on defense to matchup with athletic spread wr concepts

All spurrier did was matchup on some slow white lb and it took awhile for defenses to adjust


So....football.

Kind of like in 2019 when LSU repeatedly abused Shane Lee with wheel routes he couldn't cover.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15167 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:06 pm to
His last season at Florida was 10-2 and an Earnest Graham injury from playing for the NC.

He won 11 games 3 straight times in his late 60s before retiring. Are these the struggles he's talking about?
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
8728 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:12 pm to
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His last season at Florida was 10-2 and an Earnest Graham injury from playing for the NC. He won 11 games 3 straight times in his late 60s before retiring. Are these the struggles he's talking about?
I have no clue

Some people say I’m a “NeGator” since they think I’m so negative for calling out the Uaa and shitty staffs

Maybe I go over the top at times but I just expect Florida football to be halfway decent

To me the real negators are guys like Kevin who accept this garbage and think that winning at Florida is as hard as it is to win at Duke or Vandy.

Also if that’s his kid in his avatar he needs to be reported for abuse to child services by associating his kid with such dumbass remarks for the world to see
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15167 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:13 pm to
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Maybe I go over the top at times but I just expect Florida football to be halfway decent


You're more negative than I am, but this twitter person you're quoting is an idiot. Their arguments make 0 sense.
Posted by Tactical Syrup
Member since Jun 2024
1273 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:45 pm to
South Carolina was winning 11 games during a time when LSU and Bama were MONSTERS. When GA was solid with Murray. Florida was doing well. Argument over.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Some people say I’m a “NeGator”


Posted by flagshipuniversity
Camden SC, Charlotte NC
Member since Jul 2024
582 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:11 pm to
Spurrier was a student of the "game" and whatever that "game" became; he would figure out a way to exploit it. That was the way his mind worked. He would still be a big winner in this day at any SEC school. Look what Franklin did at Vandy and then tell me Spurrier couldn't have done better. The man knew the games weaknesses.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
22064 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:13 am to
Since the article is talking about a "young Spurrier", I will focus on his time at Florida. Spurrier's teams lit up SEC defenses back when that actually meant something.

Let's look at Spurrier's offensive scoring per game average, where it ranked in the SEC, and how close his was to the next team (either below or above) each year.

1990 - 2nd, 0.6 ppg behind Tennessee
1991 - 1st, 3.1 ppg ahead of Alabama
1992 - 4th, 6.9 ppg behind Georgia
1993 - 2nd, 0.8 ppg behind Tennessee

1994 - 1st, 8.8 ppg ahead of Auburn
1995 - 1st, 6.4 ppg ahead of South Carolina
1996 - 1st, 10.6 ppg ahead of Tennessee
1997 - 1st, 3.1 ppg ahead of Tennessee
1998 - 4th, 4.2 ppg behind Kentucky
1999 - 1st, 0.2 ppg ahead of Tennessee
2000 - 1st, 3.5 ppg ahead of Mississippi State
2001 - 1st, 9.3 ppg ahead of Ole Miss

In 12 seasons as the coach of Florida, he led the league in scoring in 8 of them. This is in a defensive league that was pretty much solely focused on shutting down his offense the whole time he was there.
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2484 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:24 am to
He would do great. Players relate well to old school coaches.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7826 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:32 am to
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I would argue that proximity is still somewhat important. One thing will never change in this game and that’s the youth of the players. These are still teenagers who haven’t been far away from their families before. Many of them still want to be in easy driving distance from mom and dad.


It will be interesting to see how it works out.

UGA under Smart has morphed from being Georgia centric with recruiting to being nationally focused for their top recruits and then falling back on GA players for the bottom half of the roster. And that changed prior to NIL. Bama was that way a decade before Georgia, going national for top players and local for roster depth.

UGA under Richt and before would have 2/3rds of their class come from GA. THis past year it was 10 out of 29... or about 1/3rd... from the state of GA.

Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22833 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:36 am to
Florida was Arizona State in 1990. By all metrics they should be a great program, but for whatever reason they weren't.

South Carolina in 2004 was Iowa State
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3773 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 10:01 am to
Usce has three 10 win seasons in it’s history, all coached by spurrier
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