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re: 3/6 Schedule Matrix + Permanents

Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:12 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:12 am to
I'm in favor of any schedule that fixes the error of dropping the annual MS State-Bama game.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:18 am to
Kentucky is going to want Tennessee and Vanderbilt. Egregious OP.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:18 am to
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Some teams have more than 1 qualifying rivalry to be made permanent. Tennessee has both Bama and Vandy. Bama has Tenn and Auburn. Auburn has Georgia and Alabama. Georgia has Auburn and Florida. Is this a reach? No.

I like the OP's take with some hesitation. Personal take, is that some programs need certain games to open or retain recruiting areas. USCe needs UGa for this purpose as an example.

Kentucky & SC could be exchanged from right to left.

Kentucky wouldn't be happy about it though.

Perms would change as follows:
GA - FL, Aub, SC
FL - GA, TN, KY
SC - KY, GA, V
KY - SC, FL, MIZ

At the end of the day, someone has to play Missouri besides Oklahoma. Figuring out those 3 would go a long way to figuring out the whole puzzle.

As an example, if it's Texas, then Arkansas can't play Texas since Texas will already be full, but I think Arkansas wants the Texas game.

A&M could make sense I suppose. Kentucky is at least close geographically, as is Tennessee & Vanderbilt.

So who should Missouri's 3 Perm's be?
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:39 am to
I honestly don't mind Mizzou, but it makes absolutely no sense for one of South Carolina's permanent opponents to be 14 hours away.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:41 am to
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So who should Missouri's 3 Perm's be?


Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky or Vanderbilt
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8203 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:48 am to
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Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky or Vanderbilt


This is where we are.. anyone have a problem with any of these so far?

Which of these games should be played every year?
1. LSU vs Texas A&M
2. Kentucky vs South Carolina
3. LSU vs Ole Miss
4. LSU vs Florida
5. Florida vs Tennessee
6. Arkansas vs Ole Miss
7. Georgia vs South Carolina
8. Kentucky vs Vanderbilt

Insert any other games that you think should be played every year.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:53 am
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:51 am to
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I am more of a fan of one permanent rival every year. It would keep the iron bowl going and Tennessee and Bama also
Do you know what teams play in the Iron Bowl?
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6871 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:18 am to
Oklahoma could play Ok State for the Thanksgiving game and LSU could play a non-conference opponent. "Stop trying to make OU happen Gretchen!"
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:39 am to
Good Lord. Did you work on that all class?
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:44 am to
Interesting but pointless exercise, IMO. SEC is staying at 8 conference games because ESPN/ABC/Disney do not have the $$$ to pay us for that 9th conference game.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8203 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:48 am to
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Interesting but pointless exercise, IMO. SEC is staying at 8 conference games because ESPN/ABC/Disney do not have the $$$ to pay us for that 9th conference game.

Valid point, but in this case, I think the SEC should go to a 3/5 scheduling format, where the 3 permanent rivals would be the same as the 3/6.

But yes, this is all a pointless exercise. I do agree with that, but I like working on the puzzle.

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Good Lord. Did you work on that all class?

I even stayed after class. #Dedication2PointlessCauses
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:51 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4215 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:50 am to
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Why force the AR/MO issue at all?

It should be the two rivals and southern state schools Arkansas vs LSU and the two midwestern state and former Big12 rivals Missouri and Oklahoma.


Exactly. Arky basically got Mizzou forced on them for Thanksgiving and we got A&M forced on us so the SEC could thrown A&M a bone for losing the Thanksgiving Texas game.

They need to give that Black Friday game back to us
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8203 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:53 am to
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They need to give that Black Friday game back to us

You want Arkansas, Florida/Alabama & Ole Miss?



Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10887 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:58 am to
I don’t know why there’s this fascination with OU playing LSU. They’re playing two of the top teams in the conference in Mizzou (confirmed) and Texas (unconfirmed), they could actually use a weaker opponent.

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Texas Fan


Oh that makes sense.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
2581 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:00 pm to
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They should be NO permanent games. Everyone rotate through everyone else.



That sounds awful. At that point I'd be on board with the "college football is going to hell and I'm not watching anymore" crew on here.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8203 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Exactly. Arky basically got Mizzou forced on them for Thanksgiving and we got A&M forced on us so the SEC could thrown A&M a bone for losing the Thanksgiving Texas game.

They need to give that Black Friday game back to us


This actually works on a lot of different levels..



A&M won't be happy with this arrangement, but pretty much every other team gets who they want. Who doesn't like these 3 perms?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20553 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:08 pm to
This is pretty well thought out, but I honestly see no reason the SEC should go to 9 conference games. Most of the conference already schedules at least one attractive P5 OOC game (looking at you, Aggies), and you still have the 3 smaller home games.

Until TV agrees to pay for it, there's no reason to give 8 conference teams an additional loss.
Posted by Eldodroptop
Member since Jul 2021
919 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:20 pm to
The one thing about this scheduling process that absolutely needs to happen is that every team in the conference plays every other team at least every other year.

That works. Keeps the schedule fresh.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8203 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:32 pm to
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The schedule matrix works with these perms as well.

Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8203 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Until TV agrees to pay for it, there's no reason to give 8 conference teams an additional loss.

Understood. The 3/5 schedule would work the exact same way as the 3/6 schedule with one minor tweak.

You would play perms every year (same as 3/6)
6 teams every other year (same as 3/6)
6 teams 2x every 6 years (little different)



So something like this..
same schedule, you just drop 1 team from your schedule each year, 6 different teams over a 6 year period. Those 6 teams would be different for everyone. They are gray above just selecting teams at random that might make sense.
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