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re: Should McDonalds employees get paid $15.00 an hour?

Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:29 pm to
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Have you seen that movie (cannot recall the name of it!) where everyone has the amount of time they have left to live displayed on the inside of their arms and they pay for everything with minutes/hours/days off of their lives?


In Time with justin Timberlake - saw it twice and it was pretty good. His mom dying in his arms was pretty intense.


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Interesting concept.


We already have it with current system. Money is filtering to fewer and fewer people who are more and more disconnected from the reality the rest of us experience. If you have a cook and a driver will you ever have to eat at McDonalds like the rest of the masses?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:52 pm to
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If you have a cook and a driver will you ever have to eat at McDonalds like the rest of the masses?



Someone's got to be their cook. Someone has to grow their heirloom veggies and livestock.

The overhead for starting a business decreases as technology and software gets better. Hell all you need is a website and you can be off and running. The demand for more specialization is growing quickly in wealthy western economies and soon within the growing middle classes in China and the like.

The future is bright. Not a grim dystopia.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:58 pm to
All fast food restaurants should have to provide free birth control to their employees. Birth control should be a requirement for employment at fast food joints. You work at McDonald's, you can't have children.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11419 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:08 pm to
Chik-Fil-A workers should get $10/hr. Every other fast food worker should get about $4/hr.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:06 pm to
Hell no. Nobody at my local McD's speaks English and they frick up your order EVERY time.
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
1671 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:55 am to
Nope
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28839 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:05 am to
i'm sympathetic to people's need for more money in a sluggish economy, but i just don't believe people today justify a raise 3x what i was making in minimum wage 10 years ago.

inflation hasn't gone up that much and they aren't a better work force.

and every minimum wage job i started (3 of them) i was at >$7 an hour before i left. so if people are getting minimum wage, it's not because they are trying.
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:05 am to
While I don't think McDonald's employees deserve to be making $15/hr, I also don't think their CEO should be making 700 times as much as the minimum wage they are being paid now.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:06 am to
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I also don't think their CEO should be making 700 times as much as the minimum wage they are being paid now.


Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28839 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:28 am to
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I also don't think their CEO should be making 700 times as much as the minimum wage they are being paid now.


i always like to compare my life and happenstance to what i'm doing and what i've achieved and not look at somebody else and compare my life to theirs and be all butthurt.

it helps me sleep better at night
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:29 am to
Management is typically overvalued in huge organizations. While good leadership certainly adds value, they can only control so much and know so much about their business. So yes, I do think companies tend to overpay CEOs.
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6037 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:50 am to
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What do you think?


Absolutely not. I have a degree, actually have a career in my field and don't make $15/hour. I'm aware I chose a low paying field because it is what I love to do, but I did have to work my arse off to get here.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15221 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:06 pm to
If that's the market price for their labor, yes. If not, no.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28839 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Management is typically overvalued in huge organizations. While good leadership certainly adds value, they can only control so much and know so much about their business. So yes, I do think companies tend to overpay CEOs.


I like the part where you know better than multi-billion dollar corporations and their boards in what good salaries are for CEOs.

Tell it again.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:40 pm to
It's an issue of size and the influence one person can have in large organizations that you should know are largely inefficient. One person can't know every aspect of the business in a large corporation. The success and failings of an organization are tied to many factors, and like a head coach or quarterback or President get too much credit when it works and too much blame when it does not.

Is it not possible for corporate boards to over value some things and undervalue others? You know, like every other human on the planet.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7989 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:42 pm to
McDonalds jobs are not careers, they're supposed to be temporary and so is minimum wage. I made minimum wage for 1 and a half summers as a 15-16 year old kid. By midway thru my second summer, I developed a skill that qualified me for a job which paid more $. Now, I could have stayed marginally skilled, showed zero initiative and worked for $3.35 an hour for every summer in the same job that was only paying minimum wage. Because that job would still be paying minimum wage regardless how long I toiled there.

Removing artificial potatoes from grease and dumping 3x the necessary salt on them is not a $15 an hour gig, no matter how long you've been with the company. McDonalds is paying for a task to be completed and it's only worth what the market will support.
Posted by MontanaMax
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2011
1929 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:56 pm to
I recently ordered a chicken sandwich, plain, from mcdumps and it somehow came back fricked up. It had cheese, pickle, mayo, and mustard on it. This was not an isolated incident. When a sumbitch can make an order as simple as what I asked for, then maybe, just maybe they would be with $10/hour and that is pushing it.
Posted by disagreeber
Member since Oct 2014
319 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:08 pm to
My recent trip to McDonalds, They were wrapped around the building, After waiting 20 mins for my turn and 10 extra mins once I finally got to the order screen, The employee asked what I wanted to order. As soon as I got "20 piece chicken nuggets" out of my mouth, the employee said, "hold on" and disapeared for another 10 mins.

I was so confused.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7372 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:31 pm to
If they don't make livable wage, us taxpayers pick up the tab for their social benefits, right? Employers should pay them a little bit more but not $15 an hour.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
No. They should be paid $6 per hour--with no medical care, no dental care, no eye care, no … aw, frick it–no bathroom breaks.
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