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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to Rhino5
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to Rhino5
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We also don’t know what his ceiling good be, but we have a very good idea of Bo’s ceiling.
That’s my thing. We know what Bo is. He’s been through multiple OCs and Head coaches and still is average at best. Finley didn’t look much better to me, but he didn’t look worse either. At this point, I just don’t see how trying him could hurt. The absolute worst thing that could happen is Bo gets pissed and transfers.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to Rhino5
Hypothetically, you start Finley. What do you do if he struggles? Do you go back to the two year plus starter you just benched? What does that do for the team psyche?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to Weagle25
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Of Finley’s four drives
1 was a punt
1 was a missed FG (Finley accounted for 11 yards)
1 was a fumble (Finley accounted for 18 yards)
And the touchdown drive (good drive by Finley)
To say he was a success on 3 of 4 drives is again dishonest.
Oh, so is the argument now that the drive only "counts" if he accounts for all of the yardage himself?
What is extremely dishonest is trying to undermine a drive where the QB completed passes for first downs on 3rd down TWICE because what, he only had 18 yards total?
Here is the actuality of that drive:
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1st & 10 at AUB 38
(9:35 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete
2nd & 10 at AUB 38
(9:28 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 6 yds to the Aub 44
3rd & 4 at AUB 44
(8:50 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Ja'Varrius Johnson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 47 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at GAST 47
(8:01 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 5 yds to the GeoSt 42
2nd & 5 at GAST 42
(7:50 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete
3rd & 5 at GAST 42
(7:32 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Kobe Hudson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 33 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at GAST 33
(7:00 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 2 yds to the GeoSt 31
2nd & 8 at GAST 31
(6:43 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 7 yds to the GeoSt 24 Tank Bigsby fumbled, recovered by GeoSt Jordan Veneziale
The two most significant plays on that drive were 9-yard completions by Finley. And they both came on 3rd down.
On the drive that led to a missed FG, he completed 1 of 2 passes. And he also RAN for a 1st down on 3rd and 1. The majority of that drive was running the ball by Hunter, who ran 4 times. Finley however still gets credit for converting a 3rd down on our own 49 yard line. Without that they don't even get to attempt a FG.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:25 pm to MrAUTigers
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Hypothetically, you start Finley. What do you do if he struggles? Do you go back to the two year plus starter you just benched? What does that do for the team psyche?
I mean Bo has struggled to be consistent for years. What does it do to team psyche to constantly put a guy out there that isn’t getting it done?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:27 pm to Skyler97
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I mean Bo has struggled to be consistent for years. What does it do to team psyche to constantly put a guy out there that isn’t getting it done?
BS, he has looked good this year except for this game. In the first three games, he has double digit drops by his WR's. He can't throw and catch it. He looked really bad this game. Finley didn't look much better. He missed as many wide open receivers as he hit.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:28 pm to MrAUTigers
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Hypothetically, you start Finley. What do you do if he struggles? Do you go back to the two year plus starter you just benched? What does that do for the team psyche?
I agree. Finely earned it. If he blows up, put Nix back in.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:29 pm to Rhino5
So that does nothing to the team psyche AND the QB's psyche?
ETA revolving QB's never turns out bad.
ETA revolving QB's never turns out bad.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:30 pm to metafour
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Oh, so is the argument now that the drive only "counts" if he accounts for all of the yardage himself?
I think you forgot the argument.
I said dishonest to say Finley came in and won the game while Nix was losing it. The offense was not very productive with either of them in.
The reason for the turn around? Defense stopped getting gashed and we blocked a punt. Neither of which has to do with Nix or Finley.
Finley didn’t come in and do much of anything different than Bo. Completing two short passes that happen to be on third down doesn’t impress.
He had one good drive which I already gave him credit for.
All of this doesn’t even matter. As soon as he plays y’all will see. I don’t know why we act like this game is his first action in his career.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:32 pm to MrAUTigers
I mean if it’s an epic disaster and he’s clearly messed up in the head (Similar to Bo against Florida a couple years ago), then yes.
But if he’s not making mistakes and drives are simply stalling, then let him grow.
We know what Bo is at this point.
But if he’s not making mistakes and drives are simply stalling, then let him grow.
We know what Bo is at this point.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:36 pm to MrAUTigers
quote:the vantage point from the stands is much better than on the TV screen
Finley didn't look much better. He missed as many wide open receivers as he hit.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:36 pm to Rhino5
The notion that this should obviously be TJ’s start Saturday is just wrong. I’m fine with going that direction for the sake of momentum but it’s tricky. I’m interested to see what Harsin decides
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:38 pm to Rhino5
quote:Amazing what a few dropped passes and a porous OL can do to your perceived talent
We know what Bo is at this point.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:38 pm to Rhino5
IF you keep rotating QB's, you are messing with both of their heads. They are constantly looking over their shoulder. That is not a good thing for either. There is a saying...... "If you have two QB's, you have none".
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:39 pm to Weagle25
quote:So true. McClain is the best player on our team hands down
The reason for the turn around? Defense stopped getting gashed and we blocked a punt.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:40 pm to ChexMix
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Amazing what a few dropped passes and a porous OL can do to your talent perception
Based off 3 years. Upper 50% completion percentage. I’d argue we could watch film from all his 3 years and they’d mostly look the same.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:45 pm to Rhino5
Bo is so far having a 6 TD, 0 turnover, 61% season.
He has really never been a turnover threat knock on wood.
That’s a pretty high floor.
He has really never been a turnover threat knock on wood.
That’s a pretty high floor.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:46 pm to MrLarson
I expect Bo Nix to start against LSU, FWIW.
I hope we have Dee Robertson back at WR, too.
I hope we have Dee Robertson back at WR, too.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:47 pm to ChexMix
TJ Finley on 3rd and 4th down against Georgia Southern in 4 total possessions:
5 for 7 passing - 4 of which were converted for 1st downs (1 touchdown)
1 rushing attempt converted for a 1st down.
6 of 8 total opportunities were converted for 1st downs (75%).
Again, the notion that he was "just as bad as Bo Nix" is complete nonsense.
Edit: the 2-point conversion is also technically a one-down (ie: "4th down") play. If you include that, it jumps to 7 of 9 conversions (78%).
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3rd & 1 at AUB 49
(2:00 - 3rd) TJ Finley run for 2 yds to the GeoSt 49 for a 1ST down
3rd & 8 at GAST 23
(14:56 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete
3rd & 11 at AUB 29
(11:30 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Ze'Vian Capers for 6 yds to the Aub 35
3rd & 4 at AUB 44
(8:50 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Ja'Varrius Johnson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 47 for a 1ST down
3rd & 5 at GAST 42
(7:32 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Kobe Hudson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 33 for a 1ST down
3rd & 11 at AUB 19
(2:23 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Kobe Hudson for 15 yds to the Aub 34 for a 1ST down
3rd & 9 at GAST 10
(0:53 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete to Kobe Hudson
4th & 9 at GAST 10
(0:45 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Shedrick Jackson for 10 yds for a TD, (TJ Finley pass to Kobe Hudson for Two-Point Conversion)
5 for 7 passing - 4 of which were converted for 1st downs (1 touchdown)
1 rushing attempt converted for a 1st down.
6 of 8 total opportunities were converted for 1st downs (75%).
Again, the notion that he was "just as bad as Bo Nix" is complete nonsense.
Edit: the 2-point conversion is also technically a one-down (ie: "4th down") play. If you include that, it jumps to 7 of 9 conversions (78%).
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:49 pm to TTsTowel
I have voiced my displeasure with Bo, but at this point I am comfortable with Harsin's management style and his demands for production. If he wants Bo, whatever. I am watching either way.
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