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re: Choosing Ja'Marr Chase over DeVonta Smith should be a crime

Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:26 am to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16037 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:26 am to
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I need the Dolphins to decide they NEED Chase and the Bengals are taking him so they offer Atlanta both 1st rd picks to get to 4. Then we take Pitts or Sewell who ever Cincy passes on and Harris in the lower 1st rd lol.




I want to see Chase reunited with Burrow and Smith with Tua in Miami. (though Waddle seemed to be a more favored target for Tua)
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 11:29 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96214 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:28 am to
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He should be able to get up to at least 185 fairly easily in an NFL program.
I have a very hard time seing Smith gaining 20 pounds man

He is already in an elite weight training regiment, and he just has little bones and frame

I still think he will be a fantastic pro player
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16037 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:31 am to
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I still think he will be a fantastic pro player


I think so also, but his size is of some concern. He has proven to be tough and durable however. Just not sure about a 166 lb WR lasting very long in the NFL.
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:38 am to
Robbie Anderson is only 190 at 6 ft 3. He’s doing fine and isn’t nearly the player that Smitty is.

Smitty could get up to 175 and that’s plenty big for 6 ft. Y’all said the same thing about Kyler Murray and he’s a top 10-12 QB right now.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1856 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:43 am to
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It's because Smith is 166 pounds, agree with it or not, that's why.

Pretty much this, I think both guys are gonna be good but the thing that irritates me about the draft evaluation is scouts are quick to overlook guys with proven tape just to go draft a guy on potential. I would rather bank on a proven commodity than take a chance on a maybe especially when my job and career is on the line
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96214 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:43 am to
Murray is 207 lbs
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36687 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:47 am to
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but the thing that irritates me about the draft evaluation is scouts are quick to overlook guys with proven tape just to go draft a guy on potential.


Well that's not what's happening here.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4595 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:47 am to
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The fact of the matter is, no NFL evaluators consider a player opting out in a Covid year "quitting." They are trying to find the players who will help their teams win games. In the latest mock draft I read, about half of the top 20 picks were guys who did not play an entire season in 2020


They don’t consider it quitting but quite a few have said all things being equal they’ll take the guy who played over the guy who opted out.
Posted by Bassman68
Homer La.
Member since Oct 2019
461 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:53 am to
Smith cant hold chase jock. Smith will be hurt and out of draft in 2 years
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42186 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:57 am to
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Chase is a great, physical deep threat, but Smith's skillset is much better suited for consistent production; he's more versatile and can play any WR position and be used in run game formats (ie jet sweeps).


Bait

Shiny bait
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:57 am to
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Smith cant hold chase jock. Smith will be hurt and out of draft in 2 years




Other than the rah rah LSu homer glasses why do think this? I mentioned Joe Burrow in another thread...would it be unfair to call him injury prone?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65376 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:59 am to
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Kyle Pitts has a much rarer skillset than either of these guys.

Being 6’6”? He’s basically a black Jimmy Graham
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37608 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:00 pm to
LSU fans are militant level obsessed with chase going over Smith in the draft. It would be their single lone win over Alabama this season. I can see it now 20+ threads. William has gifs on standby. Mulkey hire and chase draft stock his only appearances this season from moms basement :(
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:00 pm to
Smitty was rarely hurt in 4 years of SEC football, yet he’s magically gonna get put out of the league in the NFL. Half of the better corners in the league are guys he faced, would have faced in the SEC.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65376 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Half of the better corners in the league are guys he faced,

Half the best corners in the league weren’t in the SEC the last few seasons. And dominating SEC DBs between 18-21 years old is worlds different than a 25-28 year old NFL vet
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75673 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:06 pm to
Tiger rant
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:18 pm to
I agree, but still Smitty’s athleticism is rare in how he avoids contact. Even when he gets smacked, he pops right back up. There’s not much of him to hit.

I think Calvin Ridley is also a guy to compare him too physically. Ridley isn’t that big. Has a bit bigger frame in the legs, but Ridley was like 185 or 190 coming out.

Smith just has elite ball skills and the heart of a lion. You can’t coach that. He’s gonna be special.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25052 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:19 pm to
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he's more versatile and can play any WR position and be used in run game formats (ie jet sweeps).


quote:

Devonta had 4 carries for 6 yards in his entire college career.


In this thread PP7 for Heisman learns that the modern jet sweep is usually a pass/reception and not a rush/carry.

Posted by Dale Sturtevant
Uptown
Member since Mar 2015
134 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Smitty outperformed him by a whole Heisman and multiple other awards.


So by this logic, every individual award winner and every Heisman award winner should be the the first player in his position group to be drafted.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53242 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:26 pm to
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Being 6’6”?


Being 6'6, 240, running a 4.4 40, and catching everything thrown his way.

Pitts is a far bigger matchup problem than either Chase or Smith and will likely be drafted before either.
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