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What makes a team a "Cinderella" team?

Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:50 am
Posted by BFANLC
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:50 am
Is it just because a team has a lower ranking? Is Bama not considered a Cinderella team Because of its high ranking?
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:51 am to
Low seed, usually non P5 type too.
Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:52 am to
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usually non P5 type too.
Yep
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:55 am to
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Is Bama not considered a Cinderella team Because of its high ranking?

The 5th overall seed is never going to be considered Cinderella.
Posted by viceman
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:55 am to
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s it just because a team has a lower ranking? Is Bama not considered a Cinderella team Because of its high ranking?


Bama is a p5 conference champion, so no Cinderalla. Arky is a 3 seed, but if they make the final 4, one could argue they are. To me, a Cinderalla team is a team that had ups and downs throughout the year, but improved as the year went along, and is peaking at tournament time. A team that is better than their record suggest,and has exceeded expectations in the tournament. Oral Roberts is the best example of a Cinderalla team in my opinion.
Posted by BFANLC
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:55 am to
So if a miracle happens and Bama wins it all we wouldn't be considered a Cinderella team?
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:57 am to
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So if a miracle happens and Bama wins it all we wouldn't be considered a Cinderella team?



No.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:58 am to
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So if a miracle happens and Bama wins it all we wouldn't be considered a Cinderella team?


What would make Bama a Cinderella team to you?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:58 am to
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So if a miracle happens and Bama wins it all we wouldn't be considered a Cinderella team?



For one, it wouldn't be a miracle. It would be improbable, but it wouldn't be a miracle.

We're a really good team - a Top 5/10 team according to human beings and computer metrics. There is nothing cinderella about a team that has performed at a Top 5/10 level for the entire season and then wins at a Top 5/10 level in the tournament.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:03 am to
Bama wins its conference.

Bama wins its conference tournament.

Bama fans still want to be a Cinderella.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:04 am to
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So if a miracle happens and Bama wins it all we wouldn't be considered a Cinderella team?


No. A Cinderella team is a team that likely has the odds against them, but makes a run. Alabama is a top team, not a Cinderella.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:06 am to
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Is it just because a team has a lower ranking? Is Bama not considered a Cinderella team Because of its high ranking?


Yes...have you never watched the tournament before?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:07 am to
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Is Bama not considered a Cinderella team Because of its high ranking?


Bama is from a big conference. Led 3pt shooting. Has had some recent NBA talent.

Cinderellas come from small conference that don't have star power. They may have talent but your average viewer might not know where the school or heard of any of the players
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:14 am to
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So if a miracle happens and Bama wins it all we wouldn't be considered a Cinderella team?

Sure, maybe somebody will. I would say the consensus is that you were an SEC Champ and a 2 seed and should be expected to beat any lower seeds. Of course that shouldn't take anything away from a great season.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2872 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:18 am to
If you picked a bracket based purely on seeding, Alabama would be expected to go to the Elite Eight. In my opinion, a Cinderella is a team that no one should reasonably expect to get out of the opening weekend who makes it to the Elite Eight or beyond.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:19 am to
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Arky is a 3 seed, but if they make the final 4, one could argue they are


3 seeds getting to the Final Four aren't "Cinderella" teams. It's a low seed G5 team who comes out of nowhere to make a big tournament run. Oral Roberts is the only one this year.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:24 am to
Has to have been overlooked the entire season while having no outside expectation of doing well before the tournament starts. And then they have to make it to at least the sweet 16, but more so the Elite 8 or Final 4.

Also needs to be a small school that nobody's really heard of. So Syracuse this year, Loyola this year or Butler in 2011 wouldn't count as Cinderella's given their already successful history
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:33 am to
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Oral Roberts is the only one this year.


Also false.

Oregon State is a definite Cinderella.

LSU was considered a Cinderella in 1986 as an 11 seed despite being ranked as high as #8 in January.

Syracuse and UCLA also fit the bill this year.

So I count 4 teams that could all be considered Cinderellas.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:34 am to
Not necessarily saying they are...heard some sports talk guys this morning discussing it.

However to me a Cinderella team is a team that comes from no where and their winning is unexpected.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5375 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:36 am to
Teams that fit the description of Cinderella would be the 1983 NC State and 1985 Villanova teams. Barely make the tourney and somehow win the whole thing.
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