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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:42 pm to Peter Buck
Heard on the radio today he actually had a chance to make the team. I don't see how but I guess we will find out on the next few weeks.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:55 pm to Barstools
Good coaching can take advantage of that speed.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:52 am to Peter Buck
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Davis ran a 4.29 40... do I have to explain to you why he got invited to a camp?
Exactly. Our biggest choke artist got a contract because of one attribute while lacking all the other attributes such as size, production, football instincts, and hands. If a preseason contract meant what you claim it means, he wouldnt be near flowery branch right now.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 1:56 am
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:40 am to djsdawg
Ok, so what one attribute did those stupid NFL scouts find to make them give money to three of the guys on our horrible O line?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:59 am to Peter Buck
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Good coaching can take advantage of that speed.
Not when he can't catch
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:05 am to Peter Buck
That's a damn good question. Maybe it's size or positional flexibility or experience within a pro style offense.
Perhaps they get the benefit of doubt due to school/Conference reputation. They have to give someone their undrafted fa money. Might as well be a uga sec guy.
Perhaps they get the benefit of doubt due to school/Conference reputation. They have to give someone their undrafted fa money. Might as well be a uga sec guy.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:10 am to djsdawg
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Exactly. Our biggest choke artist got a contract because of one attribute while lacking all the other attributes such as size, production, football instincts, and hands. If a preseason contract meant what you claim it means, he wouldnt be near flowery branch right now.
This
Also, let me remind you all that Hutson Mason got invited to a camp as well
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:21 am to Buddy2012
The difference is that he has world class speed. Like, elite. That is a measurable thing that NFL guys will take a lot more risk on just because it is so unique and not coachable.
Lineman, they are looking for certain body types that can surpass certain thresholds of strength, footspeed, and dexterity in simple terms.
If they wanted some big bodies in camp, there is an endless supply of more mature ones out there who play Canadian or arena ball or just hang out in weight rooms and cross fit dojos.
These three guys from UGA signed contracts because NFL people saw... in most cases multiple teams saw... that they posessed the tools to be a NFL lineman. That means something... a lot actually... and is silly to diminish just to try and win some half baked www argument.
Lineman, they are looking for certain body types that can surpass certain thresholds of strength, footspeed, and dexterity in simple terms.
If they wanted some big bodies in camp, there is an endless supply of more mature ones out there who play Canadian or arena ball or just hang out in weight rooms and cross fit dojos.
These three guys from UGA signed contracts because NFL people saw... in most cases multiple teams saw... that they posessed the tools to be a NFL lineman. That means something... a lot actually... and is silly to diminish just to try and win some half baked www argument.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:49 am to Peter Buck
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Ok, so what one attribute did those stupid NFL scouts find to make them give money to three of the guys on our horrible O line?
I don't know what an undrafted player gets paid in camp but for an NFL team budget its chump change so not a big deal they are getting money before they are dismissed at the first cut.
I obviously have never worked for an NFL team but to take players to camp such as Catalina and Davis, who were not very good in college....I guess they check enough boxes to give another look along with you have to have someone past the two deep for the other scrubs to line up against. I mean as bad as Catalina was he was better than anyone else we had thanks to poor recruiting so glad he transferred in. Best of luck to him and the others at their NFL camps
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:58 am to djsdawg
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lacking all the other attributes such as ..., production
Davis' production could have been considerably better under different circumstances, IMO. He had the misfortune of playing his last three seasons with Mason, Lambert, and Eason. None of those guys were any good at deep passes, and that's where Davis might have excelled. Pretty sad that his freshman year was statistically his best in receiving yardage, 2nd best (by one catch) in # of receptions.
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:03 am to Peter Buck
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These three guys from UGA signed contracts because NFL people saw... in most cases multiple teams saw... that they posessed the tools to be a NFL lineman. That means something... a lot actually... and is silly to diminish just to try and win some half baked www argument.
Pyke is kind of a different deal than Kublanow or Catalina, from my perspective. He was a highly effective college guard who I could legitimately see making an NFL team and sticking.
I would be surprised if Kublanow or Catalina stuck. In fairness to them, I think either of them could have been servicable OL for an SEC team in a better situation. Not standouts, but with good players around them, an effective veteran QB and the right scheme, they could have been put in better situations to succeed.
Last year, we had neither of those things. UGA was trying to create movement with sheer force that they didn't have, just from a size perspective, with a QB that really couldn't check us out of a bad play with bad numbers. Kublanow and co. weren't going to be able to move SEC front 7s with those circumstances.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:37 am to Crowknowsbest
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Pyke is kind of a different deal than Kublanow or Catalina, from my perspective. He was a highly effective college guard who I could legitimately see making an NFL team and sticking. I would be surprised if Kublanow or Catalina stuck. In fairness to them, I think either of them could have been servicable OL for an SEC team in a better situation. Not standouts, but with good players around them, an effective veteran QB and the right scheme, they could have been put in better situations to succeed. Last year, we had neither of those things. UGA was trying to create movement with sheer force that they didn't have, just from a size perspective, with a QB that really couldn't check us out of a bad play with bad numbers. Kublanow and co. weren't going to be able to move SEC front 7s with those circumstances.
I think that is a very fair assessment. Bottom line is, these guys are not likely gonna start or even make rosters in the NFL... still, they had enough size and talent that if they were utilized to their strengths, they would have been a lot more effective and that is on the coaching...
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:39 am to Peter Buck
I'll also add that Pike may well make a roster as a Center or Guard. Catalina still has a shot as a Guard, but it's a long shot. Kublanow is hurt, so he may not have a hot even though it would have been a long one if he was healthy.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:52 am to Peter Buck
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Good coaching can take advantage of that speed.
Or he could just be another Renaldo Nehemiah/Oops Hines. Hopefully, he fares better than they did.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:56 pm to Peter Buck
Most likely, they are just gonna be new names to a long list of udfa from uga who were never nfl roster material. Being NFL camp Fodder for NFL players is much better than I ever did in athletics, and it's a nice pay check but don't make it out to be more than it is just for the sake of trying to prove me wrong.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:46 pm to djsdawg
Tell anyone in the football world your team had three starting lineman from its past season's team in NFL camps and they would correctly assume it must have been a pretty good line...
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:22 pm to Peter Buck
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Tell anyone in the football world your team had three starting lineman from its past season's team in NFL camps and they would correctly assume it must have been a pretty good line..
There's about 1200 players released from camp every year. Don't get too excited about failure to make a roster spot (while healthy).
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:09 am to Peter Buck
Only if those people aren't knowledgeable about the NFL camp process for undrafted players.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:03 am to meansonny
There are 16,000 Seniors each year. A number of the players in camp are Juniors and players who have been in the league or trying to get in the league for a number years. So, you are looking at 3% of Seniors in NFL camps. Other than that, anybody can get in.... 
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