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re: Jim Chaney will be the downfall of this season

Posted on 8/6/17 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 5:01 pm to
I mean, I hope you are right... but depending on 3 hotshot true Freshman to fix our OLine is disconcerting... almost as disconcerting depending on a 1st team pre season ALL SEC Tackle, a 3 year starter 2nd Team Pre Season ALL SEC Center, and a huge Senior Transfer who came from a D1AA program where he was an all conference player and numerous D1 teams were after...
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21582 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 5:53 pm to
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almost as disconcerting depending on a 1st team pre season ALL SEC Tackle

Pyke was voted preseason All-SEC as an "OL" and I don't think the media considered the position change. Some guys are versatile enough to alternate positions (Clint Boling, Kolton Houston, etc) and Pyke was not one of those guys, but he was our most experienced lineman and was apparently the best possible option. I guess the media also overlooked the fact that he was benched midway through the following season at guard.

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a huge Senior Transfer who came from a D1AA program where he was an all conference player and numerous D1 teams were after...

Catalina may have been a good player at Rhode Island and he physically looked the part, but it was clearly an enormous leap in competition. Neither of these guys were capable of consistently handling the pass rush they were facing every Saturday.

I do believe that, at the end of the day, coaches should be held accountable for the play on the field. It took Chaney too damn long last season to adjust the scheme to better fit the players and his overall track record doesn't leave me with high expectations. However, there's more talent/depth to work with and some legitimate competition at key positions, so it's not unrealistic to expect the offensive line to play at a higher level this season.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 5:57 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:04 pm to
It's almost time to see who is right about those 3 OL. You and the meaningless preseason voters will look silly if none of them make a nfl squad.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:05 pm to
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guess the media also overlooked the fact that he was benched midway through the following season at guard.


They did, and Peter buck continues to do the same.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Would you honestly try to argue that the talent of this year's OL is less than 2016's? Really?


Of the starters? Yes.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:21 pm to
Wynn was the most talented of the 2016 guys and an elite freshman or two might become starters.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:41 pm to
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Would you honestly try to argue that the talent of this year's OL is less than 2016's? Really?


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Of the starters? Yes.


2016:

Catalina/Wynn/Kublanow/Gaillard/Pyke

2017:

Wynn/Netori/Gaillard/Kindley/Wilson


You absolutely can't say with a straight face that the top lineup is more talented than the bottom. And I know you said "the starters", but if Sims is still starting a few games into the season at tackle I'll set my shorts on fire.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63831 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:47 pm to
My name is not Brunhilda, my name is Panyo.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Everybody needs to relax. Word is Chaney did a lot of soul searching in the off-season.


You misspelled "gorging".

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:50 pm to
Yall are stating that we should be crazy not to think players who have never played a down of college football, will be light years ahead of 3 Senoirs who had years of starts between them and numerous accolades. 3 guys who were good enough to get invited to NFL camps, which, contrary to popular opinion here, is no easy task and contradicts the assessments of the experts on this site.

Again, I hope you are right... or at least I hope the coaches learned from their mistakes last year.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:54 pm to
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3 guys who were good enough to get invited to NFL camps, which, contrary to popular opinion here, is no easy task and contradicts the assessments of the experts on this site.


The names of subpar uga players who have made camps is long and makes you look silly with such denials.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:02 pm to
There are subpar players who are 1st round draft picks and free agents who did not do much in College who become starters in the NFL...

Still, they don't just let anyone in an NFL camp... especially 3 players from a "pouros" O-line... they just don't waste the time or money with them.
Posted by Rules
Warm. Year round.
Member since Sep 2012
4085 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:17 pm to
Yo, Toots. Where ya been?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63831 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:25 pm to
Nobody ever listens to me. It makes me sad.


Eason struggled as a TF. Made alot of mistakes. Defenses didn't respect him. Stacked the box. As Peter said in previous posts, it's a numbers game. When you run 5 blockers into 8 tacklers, you're gonna have a bad time.

If Eason improves, the OL improves.

Not the other way around.

Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6995 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:58 pm to
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If Eason improves, the OL improves.


Eason and the oline would both benefit from unpredictable play calling. If we see loaded boxes and few passes on first and second down the offense will suck. I fear Kirby's influence on the offense more than I fear Chaney.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63831 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:02 pm to
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Eason and the oline would both benefit from unpredictable play calling. If we see loaded boxes and few passes on first and second down the offense will suck. I fear Kirby's influence on the offense more than I fear Chaney.


Eason has to graduate to the position of being able to change calls, Murray style. If he struggles with this, we have a suitable backup.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14151 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:19 pm to
You're absolutely right. Eason is the key.

Everyone is overthinking the O line. By all accounts Pittman is one of the best so he should be able to get more improvement for year 2 than we had with year 1. Just like all of the other coaches.

I'm prepared to be patient because I honestly think we'll improve. And I mean not only winning more games - but actually thinking we have a chance to win if we make it to Atlanta. That hasn't been the case in a while.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:26 pm to
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I fear Kirby's influence on the offense more than I fear Chaney.


Kirby learned from a run first HC. Expect more of the same.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:27 pm to
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we have a suitable backup.


Right, Thank goodness Brice Ramsey stayed.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:47 pm to
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Not the other way around.


This idea is highly flawed. Of course it can be the other way around
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