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re: Has Saban figured out Gus' Gimmicky High School offense?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:32 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:32 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
quote:The media did but from the second that play happened Bama fans started claiming it was the only reason we won, like it was worth all 34 points we scored. Then grouped themselves with UGA fans to say it was just lucky not good. All to ignore that Auburn ran all over them all game.
Let's not pretend Auburn fans didn't make it about that as well.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Malzahn is a very good offensive coach. Anyone that says otherwise, isnt being honest with themselves. However, he has to be able to figure out how to play his offense in a way that doesnt kill a semblance of a defense
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:37 pm to Swm323
Bama fan who was at the game checking in here. How anyone can think Saban has Malzahn's offense figured out is beyond me. You can bet your arse Saban didn't want to get into a shootout and only did so because Malzahn was kicking he and Kirby's arse all over the field in the first half. I have no problem saying that, and IMO any Bama fan who thinks Saban is anywhere close to figuring out Malzahn's offense is either delusional or being disingenuous
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:55 pm to Rabern57
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This thread is about Gus vs Saban and not just one game. Saban may have outsmarted Johnson but he took a step back stopping Gus
I honestly don't know what to do with idiocy like this. We won the game. We scored more points than you. If you need to cling to yards gained or scoring on "Saban's" defense, do what you need to do. If you want to believe stupidity like Gus is not responsible for your team's defense, and replacing Johnson is going to solve everything and then you'll be a complete powerhouse, have at it.
All I can say on it is this: last year, we lost the game, and all the statistics in the world didn't change that. This year, you lost the game, and every time one of you tries to turn into something other than the score, it just feels that much sweeter.
55-44. Roll Tide Roll, and suck on it until at least next year.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:10 pm to Fear The Thumb
I think it is clear that Gus has figured out Saban's defense (at least between the 20s).
Saban said as much in his presser where he said in today's game, you have to be able to get into these shootouts and that we'll most likely see more and more of these types of games.
Bad news, college football, Saban is evolving.
Saban said as much in his presser where he said in today's game, you have to be able to get into these shootouts and that we'll most likely see more and more of these types of games.
Bad news, college football, Saban is evolving.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:21 pm to Fear The Thumb
I don't know that I would call it Gimmicky, but I don't like the hurry up offense. That's just not the style of football that I like to watch. I do love the run & Gun offense in basketball, but not in football. To me, in football, this type of offense doesn't show that you are a better team, it just means that you're using something to catch the other team off guard. I could see using this if you have a team that doesn't have very talented players, or your players are a lot smaller than the other team, but not when you have the talent and size that Auburn has. This may be the way of the game and we'll all have to adjust, but just speaking for myself, it is not something that I like to watch.
I enjoyed watching Arkansas play, because they also have the smash mouth offense, and when they get their talent level up, they will be hell to play.
I enjoyed watching Arkansas play, because they also have the smash mouth offense, and when they get their talent level up, they will be hell to play.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:28 pm to bama my heart
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it just means that you're using something to catch the other team off guard.
Well, then, let's outlaw the play-action pass! How dare the offense trick the poor defenders like that?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:59 pm to Rabern57
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the chance Auburn and A&M can get decent DCs.
A&M would have to get one hell of a DC to beat Bama. Hard to win when you score 0 points.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:57 am to Rabern57
It appears Saban has built a team that can be smash mouth and beat LSU and a team with an offense capable of outscoring Auburn. See the perfection in this?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:25 am to Douglas Green
Alabama gave up a lot of yards on the big passing plays and kudos to Marshall for throwing a hell of an accurate long ball.
Lost in all of this is after early on and in the red zone, Alabama stopped the run. Auburn struggled to get much done on the ground the longer the game went on and they did not get a lot done running. And after early third quarter when they had the double digit lead the Alabama defense stepped up and shut it all down til the late garbage time TD where AU killed the clock scoring.
Lost in all of this is after early on and in the red zone, Alabama stopped the run. Auburn struggled to get much done on the ground the longer the game went on and they did not get a lot done running. And after early third quarter when they had the double digit lead the Alabama defense stepped up and shut it all down til the late garbage time TD where AU killed the clock scoring.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:34 am to Fear The Thumb
55-44
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:31 am to Fear The Thumb
After the 09 Iron Bowl, an Auburn friend of mine changed his Facebook photo to a picture of Mark Ingram getting stuffed by two Auburn tacklers. He said it was "great to be an Auburn Tiger" because they had ruined Ingram's Heisman chances.
This is even more embarrassing than that, somehow.
This is even more embarrassing than that, somehow.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:20 am to RollTide1987
Every SEC Team Has figured it out.....having the defensive players needed is something else again...
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:38 am to Fear The Thumb
So, Gus went 4-4 in the SEC and is on a 3 game SEC losing streak.
But, Woah Eagle, HEY!
But, Woah Eagle, HEY!
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:42 am to Fear The Thumb
Congrats to Bama, they were the better team on the field, held Auburn in the red zone when it mattered, and absolutely pummeled our defense. They deserve the credit.
That being said, if I was a Bama fan, Auburn scoring the most yards on Bama in its history would really scare me - even if they lost. It just doesn't bode well long term, Auburn only needs a couple components on defense to get it back up to snuff.
Maybe Saban will be able to out-Malzahn Malzahn consistently. The only way to find out is to get y'all against an Auburn D worth a damn.
That being said, if I was a Bama fan, Auburn scoring the most yards on Bama in its history would really scare me - even if they lost. It just doesn't bode well long term, Auburn only needs a couple components on defense to get it back up to snuff.
Maybe Saban will be able to out-Malzahn Malzahn consistently. The only way to find out is to get y'all against an Auburn D worth a damn.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:50 am to LandofDixie
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That being said, if I was a Bama fan, Auburn scoring the most yards on Bama in its history would really scare me - even if they lost. It just doesn't bode well long term, Auburn only needs a couple components on defense to get it back up to snuff.
Doesn't really scare me. Just shows me even when Auburn brings their A+ game offensively (which they did) we have evolved to the point where we can comfortably get in a shootout type game and win out of our comfort zone. Gus found matchups on the outside and Marshall made every throw and it took us 2.5 quarters to get a guy in there who could slow it down. In the meantime the offense kept us in the game and then put the game away.
Games like the one Saturday are games that Auburn is used to playing in. You guys have probably played in 10-12 of them since 2010. We are not used to playing games where its an every drive must score type game. The only one I can remember is the 2013 Texas A&M game. And that can be terrifying for a group that is used to doing what they do and relying on the defense to get stops. You can become paralyzed pretty quickly and all of a sudden be down 21 points.
Auburn got exactly what they wanted, made us play their game and we still won comfortably. I am pretty satisfied.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:07 am to bama my heart
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I don't know that I would call it Gimmicky, but I don't like the hurry up offense. That's just not the style of football that I like to watch. I do love the run & Gun offense in basketball, but not in football. To me, in football, this type of offense doesn't show that you are a better team, it just means that you're using something to catch the other team off guard. I could see using this if you have a team that doesn't have very talented players, or your players are a lot smaller than the other team, but not when you have the talent and size that Auburn has. This may be the way of the game and we'll all have to adjust, but just speaking for myself, it is not something that I like to watch.
I enjoyed watching Arkansas play, because they also have the smash mouth offense, and when they get their talent level up, they will be hell to play.
Sorry but I have to disagree with you.. The ONLY thing I dislike about hurry up offenses is when cross-eyed trolls(ie. Gustav) try to hurry the game up so much to the point that the officials aren't in place to correctly call the game. Saban is evolving(recruiting players to stop these offenses) but I don't think the HUNH is bad. Officials not being in the proper place to correctly call the game is awful though..
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:10 am to tungi01
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Sorry but I have to disagree with you.. The ONLY thing I dislike about hurry up offenses is when cross-eyed trolls(ie. Gustav) try to hurry the game up so much to the point that the officials aren't in place to correctly call the game. Saban is evolving(recruiting players to stop these offenses) but I don't think the HUNH is bad. Officials not being in the proper place to correctly call the game is awful though..
I agree. Got no problem with no huddle, going quick or the actual scheme Gus plays with. The only thing I think is gimmicky and don't like is running to the line and getting the defense and the officials off balance.
However, Auburn didn't do nearly as much of that this year. They paced at times, but they were much slower than last year (due to their defense).
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:13 am to LandofDixie
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That being said, if I was a Bama fan, Auburn scoring the most yards on Bama in its history would really scare me - even if they lost. It just doesn't bode well long term, Auburn only needs a couple components on defense to get it back up to snuff.
Yes, because you will always be the beneficiary of three interceptions deep in Bama territory each half of football. If anything, you should be concerned about your 3-8 RZ TD conversion rate (and one of those was a gimmie after the game was essentially over). Pretty weak when your HC is supposedly an offensive guru.
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