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Spinoff Thread: Thoughts on marriage

Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:17 pm
Since it's come up a couple times in the Pigfeet thread and others, I'm curious as to the OTB's opinion.

Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*

If you don't, why not? I see the term archaic thrown around a lot and am curious as to why some think that applies.

*FWIW, I'm going with marriage as recognized by the government in order to include non-religious unions/marriages by your local Justice of the Peace.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*



Yes.

Pigfeet is a tPOS
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:22 pm to
It's definitely serious to me.


I can't help it if millions of other people aren't taking it seriously. But it really doesn't affect the "seriousness" of my marriage.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*

Yes, but it's not a big deal to me if other couples don't believe in marriage.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*


Yes


I also said that traditional concepts of marriage is archaic and oppressive.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
A. Marriage is the single most important societal structure.
B. Sometimes it sucks. The fact that it sometimes sucks in no way changes A.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99898 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*


And I just realized I didn't answer my own question. I think it's very much still valid today. But too many people jump in for all the wrong reasons and take their vows with a grain of salt. That doesn't lessen it's seriousness for me.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:33 pm to
I'm not married. But I think each couple has the right to determine what parameters in which they wish their marriage to exist. If both husband and wife agree on an open marriage, then that's cool.

I don't buy cheating on your wife then justifying it by saying you don't believe in traditional marriage, unless everything is out in the open and both parties are clear as to what the other's intentions are.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:36 pm to
I think marriage is valid for raising children, and if both partners believe they are doing something greater than themselves.

I don't think traditional marriage is archaic or oppressive. Marriage by its very nature is supposed to oppress a sorry-assed human's base desires so they don't go fricking the next best thing that walks by and smiles. Its supposed to discipline our baser instincts and create commitment rewards for otherwise extremely selfish creatures.

Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6796 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:42 pm to
Getting married was the best decision of my life. I love it. Others can do or not do as they like.
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:14 pm to
Excellent.

Just read a nice missive on the topic here:

Return of Kings: The Marriage Paradigm

Thing about articles on ROK is that the comments are insightful and informative.

Take a look for the 'male' side of the issue.

Marriage can work if the man stays masculine and the woman feminine.

It's when the men stop leading or the women try to be men that marriages most often fail.

We can thank the false teachings of feminism for that in large part.

Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:29 pm to
Without a doubt it's valid but it depends in who holds the covenant.

I made a promise to my bride before her, our family, our friends, and God himself.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:36 pm to
I love my wife with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns.

Beyond THAT, I am committed to her and making it work.

I am atheist, so it is not a "promise to God thing" with me.




IF...and, it is an incomprehensibly big IF...it were to all fall apart tomorrow, my marriage would STILL have been worth it.

So, put me in the "valid" column.

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29121 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:53 pm to
I think that traditional marriage and child rearing is an important facet to society and the well being of a nation.

I understand and support the tax code as it incentivizes the traditional family model, which the least amount of criminals and most productive members tend to come from that. I know there are terrible people that come from good homes and wonderful people that come from broken homes, but the majority of time that is not the case.

/Christianmode

I do support the right of gays to marry and have the government recognize that as a legitimate union. Also for common law marriages and civil unions.

While I don't agree with either lifestyle itself, I do not think that the government should not encourage the growth of a stable lifestyle whether there is a marriage "tag" placed on it or not.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67292 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:16 pm to
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Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*


Yes, but the courts and feminism have all but ruined it. Men get a raw deal in it and are constantly at the mercy of the woman and the courts to not lose everything they have. This has completely thrown off the balance of power in the marriages themselves. However, despite all of the bull shite politics, marriage is absolutely a valid institution. It is a noble cause to devote your life to another person and to raising children with that person.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:09 pm to
if you want kids marriage provides a stable environment (as long as the parents aren't tards)

i never wanted kids and stayed single. feel like it was a good decision for me

also think that if you're going to have kids you should stay together until the children are grown - you brought them into the world - at least have the balls to give them a stable environment until they grow up
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
17003 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:26 pm to
Life is really hard.. The day to day difficulties people face can be really overwhelming at times... People aren't meant to go through that shite alone.. You need someone to share both the good and bad times with... Whether it's a close friend, spouse or significant other... I chose marriage and I believe it's a valid institution... But if someone else goes about it in a different way that's their business and fine with me... It's hard to find happiness... It's damn near impossible to find it alone.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:33 pm to
Yes.

And although I'm a Christian, my faith doesn't affect the gravity with which I regard my marriage.

Also, other couples' druthers on the subject are of little consequence to me, personally.
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