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re: SEC teams, better, same or worse next year?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:33 am to BoominHogtown
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:33 am to BoominHogtown
There is no way all three of those players come back. Unless something drastic happens in the next couple of months.
Floyd is gone for sure. Elam most likely.
Easley is probably back, although he might leave as well.
Jenkins and Reed could also go pro.
Floyd is gone for sure. Elam most likely.
Easley is probably back, although he might leave as well.
Jenkins and Reed could also go pro.
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:36 am to Beer Bryant
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OM - same
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:42 am to redstick13
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Both projected first rounders in the first 20 picks of the first round. They both will be gone and you will have a sophomore center that has never started.
I am so glad that you are totally in tune with the A&M players.
Did you consider that both Joeckel and Matthews have brothers on the team and that Matthews has the chance to start with that sophmore center who is .. oh yeah ... his brother?
The fact is that both have expressed a desire to return but the $$ will definitely have a say in it.
Right now from everything I have heard (and not just from Aggie sources but people who know the family) I think that Matthews is about 80% returning.
Joeckel not sure but I think he is probably 50/50 right now and I think Moore is gone.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:42 am to Bose Ikard
LSU loses nearly nothing on the offensive side. Injuries on the OL during 2012 meant they had to plug in some underclassmen far earlier than intended. The OL play suffered because of it early on. The starting LT is expected back from injury and the two young guards are now playing very well. The OL is expected to be a strong point for LSU in 2013. Out of the RBs only Spencer Ware is expected to go pro. Starting FB and freshman RB Jeremy Hill will return. All the WR's will be back except Russel Shepard. They are expected to pick up a tall Juco WR. Mettenberger will also be back.
The defensive side is full of question marks. They will lose their two All American DEs and possibly a starting DT. There will absolutely be a drop off along the line. They will likely have to replace one CB and one Safety. The dismissal of Mathieu forced Chavis to start some freshmen CBs in 2012. Those freshman should improve with a year of starting time.
LB play should be a strength of the defense in 2013 as LSU had a monster recruiting haul at LB in 2012 and many of those kids were already seeing the field.
Overall the offense should be the best that LSU has fielded since 2007.
The defense will likely be better in the secondary but see a drop off along the line.
The defensive side is full of question marks. They will lose their two All American DEs and possibly a starting DT. There will absolutely be a drop off along the line. They will likely have to replace one CB and one Safety. The dismissal of Mathieu forced Chavis to start some freshmen CBs in 2012. Those freshman should improve with a year of starting time.
LB play should be a strength of the defense in 2013 as LSU had a monster recruiting haul at LB in 2012 and many of those kids were already seeing the field.
Overall the offense should be the best that LSU has fielded since 2007.
The defense will likely be better in the secondary but see a drop off along the line.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:45 am to BigAggie06
I just find it quite funny that you Aggies won't even consider the possibility that your offensive line could be a problem area next year.
It's all pancakes and roses in College Station.
It's all pancakes and roses in College Station.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:48 am to PanhandleDawg
It was the worst game we played all year.They went 8-4 and now they are looking at a bunch of JUCO quarterbacks.They lost their last two games of the year and they almost lost to Kansas.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:49 am to slayerxing
With teams like LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georiga, and South Carolina it's hard to tell if they will be better or worse. Those teams are very solid in what they do and they have talent.
What I mean by that is you knew this season Alabama would be solid running the football and playing solid defense. What you didn't know is Amari Cooper and TJ Yeldon.
You saw LSU lose most of their O line and a good running back this year. They were still very good. Now think about next season. They will run the football and play good defense. But what happens if one or three of those talented kids they recruited emerge as a star type of player. Now you're back to looking at them as a championship caliber team.
What I mean by that is you knew this season Alabama would be solid running the football and playing solid defense. What you didn't know is Amari Cooper and TJ Yeldon.
You saw LSU lose most of their O line and a good running back this year. They were still very good. Now think about next season. They will run the football and play good defense. But what happens if one or three of those talented kids they recruited emerge as a star type of player. Now you're back to looking at them as a championship caliber team.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:56 am to Beer Bryant
IMHO
UGA will probably lose 2 of 3 to UF, LSU, SCar. 9-3 or 10-2 is my prediction.
UF vs. Bama in the 2013 SECCG
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Records may not reflect it, but:
Bama - better
LSU - better
Auburn - better
Arkansas - same
OM - better
TAMU - same
MSU - worse
East:
Tennessee - same
Mizzou - better
USCe - worse
UK - same
Vandy - better
Florida - better
Georgia - worse
UGA will probably lose 2 of 3 to UF, LSU, SCar. 9-3 or 10-2 is my prediction.
UF vs. Bama in the 2013 SECCG
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:00 pm to Beer Bryant
We'll be better if we get moore, matthews, and joeckel to return. Anything else and we are probably going to be the same
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:20 pm to WestCoastAg
So what I'm gathering from this thread is that every team in the SEC will be better...except vandy
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:21 pm to Beer Bryant
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Bama - better
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:40 pm to slayerxing
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Not claiming to be an insider by any means but they have been telling people they are going to stay. As for Floyd I think he wants to go 1st of 2nd rd which he is currently not predicted to make.
Not claiming to be an insider by any means but they have been telling people they are going to stay. As for Floyd I think he wants to go 1st of 2nd rd which he is currently not predicted to make.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:43 pm to Beer Bryant
Our entire team this year may have a combined 5stars. Just wait honcho.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:51 pm to Beer Bryant
I am not convinced LSU will be better. I want to see if Minter and Logan decide to stay first.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:56 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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HB - better. Our best running back was ineligible this year (Brandon Williams)
better because trey and ben have a year under sumlin. brandon williams is not our best running back
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:53 pm to Arch2012
I'm going to guess Mizzou will look like Tennessee next year assuming our offense is healthy.
The offense gets All Big 12 RB Henry Josey back. We don't lose anyone productive outside TJ Moe, but DGB should be able to easily fill that void.
On defense however, we lose a lot. There is no one to replace Sheldon Richardson. Our defense started out strong, but SEC coaches started attacking the holes in the defense and our defensive staff never responded with adjustments.
The one bright spot is a weaker schedule.
The offense gets All Big 12 RB Henry Josey back. We don't lose anyone productive outside TJ Moe, but DGB should be able to easily fill that void.
On defense however, we lose a lot. There is no one to replace Sheldon Richardson. Our defense started out strong, but SEC coaches started attacking the holes in the defense and our defensive staff never responded with adjustments.
The one bright spot is a weaker schedule.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:08 pm to Beer Bryant
SEC West:
MSU - stagnant
TAMU - worse
Ole Miss - stagnant
Arkansas - better
Auburn - better
LSU - better
bama - worse
SEC East:
Mizzou - stagnant
Tennessee - stagnant
Georgia - worse
South Carolina - worse
Vanderbilt - better
Florida - worse
MSU - stagnant
TAMU - worse
Ole Miss - stagnant
Arkansas - better
Auburn - better
LSU - better
bama - worse
SEC East:
Mizzou - stagnant
Tennessee - stagnant
Georgia - worse
South Carolina - worse
Vanderbilt - better
Florida - worse
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:17 pm to Beer Bryant
BETTER....aways better...new coaches best hit the ground running however.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:21 pm to boXerrumble
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I love how everyone is just assuming that UF's offense won't get better, and their defense will get worse because of juniors leaving.
Way to make general assumptions. Yep our offense will not improve at all next season.
Agreed. Florida was not supposed to be any good this season -- and their offense wasn't. But they had one hell of a season thanks to defense and special teams. Maybe the defense regresses a little, but the offense should be much improved.
UF will be a better team in 2013, although it will be awfully difficult to match an 11-1 record. UF will be the favorite in the East, followed by USC and UGA (in that order).
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:18 pm to SpringBokCock
I'm very optimistic a/b USC's chances next year. We lose a lot on defense but have talent waiting. The D-Line will be one of the best in the nation. LB is problematic.
The offense will be a/b the same. We won't have Lattimore but we haven't had him for half of our games the past two seasons anyways. The QB situation will be fluid as befits a Spurrier run team.
UF and A&M fans are deluding themselves. Some of those guys, if not a lot of them, are headed to the NFL. Better just to assume they are and then be pleasantly surprised if they don't.
The offense will be a/b the same. We won't have Lattimore but we haven't had him for half of our games the past two seasons anyways. The QB situation will be fluid as befits a Spurrier run team.
UF and A&M fans are deluding themselves. Some of those guys, if not a lot of them, are headed to the NFL. Better just to assume they are and then be pleasantly surprised if they don't.
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