Gotta keep Freeze at this point IMO

If we do, my expectations of next year going to the playoffs don't change.

Year 3 I was going to be OK with 8 wins. I'm not going to be OK with 8 wins next year cause we keep a dog shite coach

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Too many jobs better than ours.

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Irrelevant. Some of them will be looking at coaches who would never be real candidates here anyway.

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Team hasn't given up like previous coaching fires at Auburn

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Sure. But that is your defining metric? As long as the team hasn't given up, we are good?

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Give Durkin a raise

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Durkin is already one of the ~5 highest paid coordinators in the country. But lost in all of this talk is a hypothetical that no one wants to think about: what if Durkin leaves to be a HC elsewhere, or a team like LSU poaches him to be their DC? The job security under Freeze will be utter dogshit at Auburn. Who says that Durkin wants to stick around to get fired next season along with the rest of the staff?

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Overhaul offensive staff

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So tell Freeze to fire all of his buddies that he hand-selected and likely has no interest in canning. So we are now back to telling the HC how to run his program...aka: JABA.

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use money on improving roster vs paying a buyout

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This logic has worked wonders so far. Sure, keep throwing money onto a burning pile of garbage and maybe it will extinguish itself. The other angle to this: if you were a transfer portal player of note, why would you come to Auburn knowing that Freeze is two seconds away from getting fired in 2026 given that he has won nothing here and keeps failing?

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Too many jobs better than ours.

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I'm so sick of this loser mentality.

What makes LSU a better job than ours? They have some (slight) recruiting advantages? They're in a shithole of a city that offers zero incentive for a person to move there with kids. It's some of the worst weather in the country. Their fans bolt at halftime even in meaningful SEC games. Their expectations are worse than ours.

Penn State? Laughable. I will listen to zero attempts that argue that Penn State, a school riddled with despicable controversy out in the middle of nowhere, is a better job than a Big 6 SEC school.

Florida? Maybe. But I'm not sure they have the footing to make a run at being a competitive program. They seem to have more internal hindrances than we do.

If we're not the best option on the market, become it. We have a lot going for us in terms of history, recruiting, standard of living, and money.

Fire Freeze. Don't be a poohnanny.

Freeze will lose a major share of his talent in the portal after this season. Everyone knows he’s a lane dick with another year.

No OC worth anything will work in a lame duck situation and as we consistently learned with Gus, these guys with “schemes” don’t turn over play calling.

Freeze is a poor coach and next year’s schedule is much harder. He’ll likely walk into it with another rent-a-QB (which he has shown multiple times he’s a bad judge of), fewer playmakers and a fan base that doesn’t want him.

We’ll still have to scout a coaching prospect from G5 and coordinator pools. There’s no Saban out there.

We keep Freeze, we’re going more damage to this already very damaged program.

What he did at Ole Miss (average 9 wins a season over 3 years before it blew up) was largely due to having a very talented roster. With more parity now and an even recruiting game, he's being exposed even more. The best thing he's done in his tenure is hiring DJ Durkin and I'll give him credit for that but it's (barely) covering up what is ultimately been a disastrous tenure.

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What makes LSU a better job than ours? They have some (slight) recruiting advantages?

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The Instate school with no competition for instate talent. Huge recruiting advantage. Biggest boosters are yours in the state.

Florida - The named school of the state. Fertile recruiting grounds. Yeah you have to compete with Miami & FSU but big donors. I also know that they have people who also will go in and remodel your house if you are a great recruit for minimal cost. (Seen it happen)

Penn State? Who is their competition for instate prospects? Pitt? They are the named instate school. way more alumni than we have.

All 3 of those schools have more money than we have, more alumni, more students & have recruiting advantages.

For a coach, LSU is probably one of the top 5 schools for a job.

I agree with becoming a great place where people want to come and coach but we have to have the staff, boosters et al on the same page, but I don't think we do.

I agree it is past time to fire Freeze as I never wanted him here in the first place. But I don't make decisions.

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We are an emotional group

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it has been a long 5 years

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Too many jobs better than ours.
Team hasn't given up like previous coaching fires at Auburn
Give Durkin a raise
Overhaul offensive staff
use money on improving roster vs paying a buyout

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I just don't see how this viewpoint is anything other than conceding next season to save money.

What other point is there to it? Hugh isn't going to become an effective leader at this point.