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How did the 12 SEC teams agree on these East & West permanent rivals for over a decade?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:17 pm
Auburn - Georgia, Florida
Florida - LSU, Auburn
Tennessee - Alabama, Arkansas
LSU - Florida, Kentucky
Vanderbilt - Ole Miss, Alabama
Georgia - Ole Miss, Auburn
Arkansas - Tennessee, South Carolina
Alabama - Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Kentucky - MSU, LSU
Ole Miss - Vanderbilt, Georgia
South Carolina - Arkansas, MSU
MSU - Kentucky, South Carolina
I'm surprised they didn't have a written clause for MSU. Something like MSU couldn't represent the West in the championship game if they finish in a divisional tie for first place. Their East schedule was complete garbage and they should be ashamed of hanging a banner that one year.
Florida and Auburn were original members from the SEC. What idiots at those schools decided to bend over and take it. I assume Florida would have played for a few more BCS championships if not for Auburn being a thorn in their side. Auburn might of had another SEC championship with a better schedule.
Florida - LSU, Auburn
Tennessee - Alabama, Arkansas
LSU - Florida, Kentucky
Vanderbilt - Ole Miss, Alabama
Georgia - Ole Miss, Auburn
Arkansas - Tennessee, South Carolina
Alabama - Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Kentucky - MSU, LSU
Ole Miss - Vanderbilt, Georgia
South Carolina - Arkansas, MSU
MSU - Kentucky, South Carolina
I'm surprised they didn't have a written clause for MSU. Something like MSU couldn't represent the West in the championship game if they finish in a divisional tie for first place. Their East schedule was complete garbage and they should be ashamed of hanging a banner that one year.
Florida and Auburn were original members from the SEC. What idiots at those schools decided to bend over and take it. I assume Florida would have played for a few more BCS championships if not for Auburn being a thorn in their side. Auburn might of had another SEC championship with a better schedule.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 12:25 pm
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:56 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
South Carolina and Arkansas joined the league together in 1991, so that makes sense. As far as, South Carolina playing MSU, I've got no clue.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:04 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
You don’t know your history. At the time, Auburn had played UF more than any SEC team other than UGA (maybe MSU). Auburn’s main recruiting areas have always been the states of Alabama, Georgia and Florida. Auburn fought to have UF as an annual rival (and would never have fought to avoid having that game annually).
Of course the DSOR speaks for itself.
Of course the DSOR speaks for itself.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:36 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Auburn is one of our oldest rivals. Also happens to be the closest SEC school.
If the schools had known we'd have to drop to one rival one day, I'd guess the divisions may have been built differently originally.
If the schools had known we'd have to drop to one rival one day, I'd guess the divisions may have been built differently originally.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:45 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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I'm surprised they didn't have a written clause for MSU. Something like MSU couldn't represent the West in the championship game if they finish in a divisional tie for first place. Their East schedule was complete garbage and they should be ashamed of hanging a banner that one year.
Oh shut the frick up.
Hell, UK had mike leach as OC and Tim Couch at QB in 1998. I’d say they were hardly scrubs and they beat us anyway and we still won the west.
SEC football in the 90’s was a lot different than what we’ve seen the last 15 years. A hell of a lot more parity back then.
I’ll give you that the 1998 team was probably one of the worst to ever win the west but no one else did shite that year either. Our 99 team was way better than 98 and they didn’t win the west.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:51 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Big6 vs Big6 was the money draw for CBS.
The cross Div schedule seemed unfair; but you had to have:
Uga v AU
Bama v Tenn
And therefore LSU was coupled up nicely with Florida
They knew what they were doing.
The cross Div schedule seemed unfair; but you had to have:
Uga v AU
Bama v Tenn
And therefore LSU was coupled up nicely with Florida
They knew what they were doing.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:00 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Florida and Auburn
Up until 2000 or so, Florida was our second most games other than Georgia.
Geographically we are the closest SEC school to Gainesville.
I miss the 10 team SEC.
Our schedule always had Tennessee in September, Florida in late October, Georgia and Bama in November.
We also played MSU every year.
The other teams rotated onto the schedule now and then.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:05 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
It was about rivalries, with other matchups filled in afterwards.
Auburn/UF used to be a big rivalry game. Many fans of both schools were disappointed when it stopped being a yearly contest.
Some of the other second matchups kept long standing matchups in place that weren't really rivalries. While UGA and Ole Miss didn't play them every year, we played them pretty frequently from 1966-1991.
It was a reasonable decision to cut down to 1 game, even though Auburn and UF missed their yearly matchup.
Auburn/UF used to be a big rivalry game. Many fans of both schools were disappointed when it stopped being a yearly contest.
Some of the other second matchups kept long standing matchups in place that weren't really rivalries. While UGA and Ole Miss didn't play them every year, we played them pretty frequently from 1966-1991.
It was a reasonable decision to cut down to 1 game, even though Auburn and UF missed their yearly matchup.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:47 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Florida and Auburn were original members from the SEC. What idiots at those schools decided to bend over and take it. I assume Florida would have played for a few more BCS championships if not for Auburn being a thorn in their side. Auburn might have had another SEC championship with a better schedule.
Auburn is Florida’s oldest rival, even older than Georgia. Auburn is also the closest SEC school in proximity to Gainesville. It was a great game that I hated to see go.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 3:07 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
You gotta remember that in 1990 when the divisions were put together, Florida was hovering just above .500 all time and coming off a 6-6 record i 1989. . the thought of Florida winning a national title was about like Ole Miss winning one. Auburn was a much stronger program. and the two had played forever. Certain teams weren't anything like they are today. Most people thought Arkie would come in and be a championship contender most years as they had been in the SWC.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:00 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I miss having Arkansas as a yearly opponent quite honestly. Those were some fun matchups.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:22 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Our past history with Ole Miss and LSU was mostly forgotten by the time we joined the SEC. We hadn't played LSU since 1966 and Ole Miss wasn't much of a threat after that series was resumed in the early 80's.
Tennessee was the only SEC-e border state and it just made sense that we'd play them. As mentioned, we played SC because we were both new.
Tennessee was the only SEC-e border state and it just made sense that we'd play them. As mentioned, we played SC because we were both new.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:16 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I can answer the MSU part
South Carolina was new and just randomly paired with MSU and they kept the newbies together.
Alabama had Tennessee, Auburn had Georgia and Florida, LSU wanted Florida
It was either Vanderbilt or Kentucky for MSU. Keep in mind, when these schedules were originally set, State was a top 25 club (They swept Texas in a home and home the first two years).
If you look at the '91 standings, the last of the 10-team SEC, State tied with Georgia for fourth and Kentucky went 0-7.
I won't argue that '98 State was one of the two worst SEC Championship participants ('95 Arkansas was terrible as well, but I think they had help via probation). But the West was awful that year. Four teams in the East would have won the West.
But unlike the '95 Hogs, State put up a fight in the actual championship game, and led midway through the fourth quarter.
South Carolina was new and just randomly paired with MSU and they kept the newbies together.
Alabama had Tennessee, Auburn had Georgia and Florida, LSU wanted Florida
It was either Vanderbilt or Kentucky for MSU. Keep in mind, when these schedules were originally set, State was a top 25 club (They swept Texas in a home and home the first two years).
If you look at the '91 standings, the last of the 10-team SEC, State tied with Georgia for fourth and Kentucky went 0-7.
I won't argue that '98 State was one of the two worst SEC Championship participants ('95 Arkansas was terrible as well, but I think they had help via probation). But the West was awful that year. Four teams in the East would have won the West.
But unlike the '95 Hogs, State put up a fight in the actual championship game, and led midway through the fourth quarter.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:40 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Someone probably pointed this out but Auburn has always had the hardest schedule. In the 80’s before the division split, 4 out of the 5 annual games were Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee.
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