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re: New Head Coach Thread (Welcome Coach DeBoer)
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:49 am to RiverCityTider
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:49 am to RiverCityTider
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DABO's Buyout is 7.5 mill to Bama.
Okay, then i was waaaaay off.
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:49 am to RiverCityTider
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DABO's Buyout is 7.5 mill to Bama.
Let Clemson keep him.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:49 am to Robot Santa
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Agreed. Following Saban is something you'll only survive if you want to do it. If you have to be talked into it you're probably going to fail. It's a monumental task and only someone with massive balls and endless confidence will be able to pull it off successfully.
I agree with this. We want someone who reacts positively to the pressure. Even before Saban, there was talk about the high expectations at Alabama. Both Perkins and Curry left largely because they couldn't handle it. When Saban arrived, he said "I know you have tremendous expectations. I want you to know that I have even higher expectations for what we can accomplish." A real winner relishes being at a program that has massive expectations and intensity.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:49 am to Robot Santa
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On a personal level? No. He's a sanctimonious dipshit who thinks football games are determined by which team is more Christian. frick him and frick every other coach who plays that bullshite.
You would let his faith blind you to his possible success here? When has he ever said it’s because he has more Christians being the reason he won a game? (Genuinely curious)
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:50 am to jryanw
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actually think the program is in such great shape that the next HC will be successful out the gate no matter who it is.
True...Miami was in that spot and Larry Coker is a national championship winning coach because of it, but I don't think he was the right coach to keep it going ( granted UM has it set of specific issues)
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:51 am to Kenny Stapler
Dabo being so slow to adapt to the changing landscape of the game, all while his on-field product suffers, is a MAJOR red flag. I don't really want to hire him with the HOPE that he will embrace the changing culture.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:51 am to jryanw
Yea if it's Kalen DeBoer over Kiffin then I think it's a failure of a hire. This is how programs fall off with safe, uninspired hires like this.
I could see a max exodus if he's the guy.
I could see a max exodus if he's the guy.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:51 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
If Lanning is out then I expect Deboer to be next in line which I don't think he would turn down.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:52 am to RiverCityTider
The nike and Oregon thing is blown out of proportion. Nike won't risk losing business with all the other teams to support Oregon. Phil Knight is a different story.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:52 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Yeah that’s a photo shop I’m looking at his twitter now and the last post he liked was on January 2nd
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:52 am to Crimson_Blinders
I don't see how we could want this over Kiffin.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:53 am to Bank Shotz
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Everyone talks about following a legend with no mention of how strong GOAT left the program. I would not want to follow Belichick because the Patriots are garbage now. Let’s be honest, Bama was starting to slip during Bear’s final year. His last game was the fricking Liberty Bowl.
No one ever brings up:
Devaney at Nebraska (Osborne)
Schnellenberger at Miami (Johnson)
Johnson at Miami (Erickson)
Tressel at Ohio State (Meyer)
Saban at LSU (Miles)
Meyer at Ohio State (Day)
Stoops at Oklahoma (Riley)
... to name a few.
The decline was well in effect when Bryant and Bowden resigned. Paterno coached so long he saw his decline and climbed out of it about three times. This isn't remotely the same situation as those three
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:53 am to Kenny Stapler
This Lanning bullsheet is passing me off. If he's on Twitter "twitter" liking Tweets about not going to Tuscaloosa, get freakin Kiffen on the Phone.
Kiffen knows what he is doing. He know he will win here.
Can you imagine what he will do with Milroe and Sayin?
We can't screw around with these west coast idiots while the whole country is trying to steel our roster.
We need a coach on the ground in T'town now.
Kiffen knows what he is doing. He know he will win here.
Can you imagine what he will do with Milroe and Sayin?
We can't screw around with these west coast idiots while the whole country is trying to steel our roster.
We need a coach on the ground in T'town now.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:56 am to RiverCityTider
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We need a coach on the ground in T'town now.
It’s been 18 hours
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:56 am to EGO3x
A failure? He's won everywhere he's been. Took a Washington team to the national championship and was 3-0 vs. Lanning. You might not like the hire, but it's definitely not a failure. He has shown more potential than any of the other candidates.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:56 am to RiverCityTider
Kiffen would not be a good hire for Milroe.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:57 am to Kenny Stapler
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You would let his faith blind you to his possible success here?
You just going to ignore me saying I'd hope he is successful because I want Alabama to be successful? I just wouldn't want him to be successful on a personal level because I don't like him on a personal level and I think his televangelist bullshite is an inappropriate foundation for a college sports program at a public, state funded university.
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When has he ever said it’s because he has more Christians being the reason he won a game? (Genuinely curious)
Dabo cites religious conviction as a reason for Clemson's success practically every time a mic is stuck in front of him.
All that being said, my main objection to the hire would be his failure and general unwillingness to adapt to changes in the game regarding roster management.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:57 am to EGO3x
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Yea if it's Kalen DeBoer over Kiffin then I think it's a failure of a hire. This is how programs fall off with safe, uninspired hires like this.
DeBoer has done more in less time at a program that was in worse shape on the field and financially than Ole Miss. Remind yourself how Kiffin did in the PAC 12. Besides, I would say Kiffin is an uninspired hire - just an obvious name because he was a former assistant and colored by recency bias since he's just had the first good seasons of a coaching career stretching back to the Bush administration.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:57 am to Bama Bird
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Yeah I'm not big on DeBoer at all. People want to bring up Bo Nix, but DeBoer and Penix have the same relationship, and DeBoer lacks the SEC connections that Lanning has.
With the pedigree he has in winning, he can develop new connections in my opinion
He has 3 NAIA National titles and had his team on the cusp of winning the whole thing this year.
The guy has a formula that has worked just about everywhere he's been.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:57 am to Remiden
quote:Not for or against Kiffin but this is not correct. He and Sark could work wonders with Milroe.
Kiffen would not be a good hire for Milroe.
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