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Do you still look at high school recruiting the same?

Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9474 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:40 pm
I used to follow it but now I loosely follow it because of the portal recruiting. What about you?
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
2081 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:42 pm to
Definitely not. I'd say 25% do 3 years of playing time at this point. NIL money will probably get you more talent than anything. Money talks, BS walks. Losing talent and coaches has hurt Saban more than anything. He can't win by hording talent like he did in the past.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49497 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:46 pm to
I gave up a while ago. With Bama paying players under the table and no one honoring their commitments, it was hard to get invested in it.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11231 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:00 pm to
Not really about who signs the highest ranked class now. It's about who is best at retention of the classes they sign.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5139 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:07 pm to
Why would you? To me, recruiting is now a year to year thing across classes. You have to re-recruit practically your entire team every season. Blue chips any given year will be on a wait and see basis with programs with larger bank accounts.

I would absolutely hate being a college football coach right now. Without contracts or proper rules for NIL, it's far worse than being a pro coach.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22559 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:16 pm to
I think quality matters for high school. I expect a 75% 25% split for the majority of teams going forward. Maybe even less of a delta …

The portal has changed recruiting
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6024 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:17 pm to
The unlimited free agency for players is going to have a reckoning at some point. The carrot will be schools or associated 503 paying the football players, the stick will be contractual agreements that require all parties to consent to ending the contract before terms are complete (with a litany of player and school advantaged termination triggers of course).

We're in the Wild West era of NIL+transfers because the NCAA has abrogated their interests on this front due to a litany of litigation Ls. Eventually the power players are going to agree that something must be done to rationalize the labor-side business of the sport. Part of the reason the NFL doesn't have a D-League is because they know most of these high schoolers are poisonous assets to hold. Eventually several school's collectives are going to get over-committed to dead weight and the money is going to demand a reckoning.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:18 pm to
What an interesting day for a Bama fan to make a thread about how he finds HS recruiting less relevant lolol.

Never change gumps
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65531 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Do you still look at high school recruiting the same?

No. Because of the portal, signing a good player only means you’ll have them for one year. When you actually had to sit out a year to transfer, that deterred a lot of the nonsense. Outside off the field stuff and getting dismissed, transfers were rare
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10365 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
Barely care. Half the class will leave after a year, portal is open. Doesn't matter much anymore.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
1722 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. What’s the point when players just enter the portal left and right?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5815 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:19 pm to
How can you?

Now it’s only 50% of your roster building efforts
Posted by lsubruce
baton rouge, la.
Member since Oct 2004
1010 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:20 pm to
Don’t care nearly as much since Joe McKnight shoved it up our asses years ago.
Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
966 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:25 pm to
I mean there's really not much of a reason to follow it that closely the letter of intent they sign isn't worth the piece of paper that it was written on.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:39 pm to
The “blue bloods” still recruit high school like it’s 2005. Half the guys you sign from high school wont finish at your program. Kinda meaningless to get excited about highly rated high school classes.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
20246 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:07 pm to
I’ll pay attention to offensive linemen more than anything. It seems like they are more subject to stay with a program and develop than other positions.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
42175 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:17 pm to
I couldn’t care less about recruiting or the players in the portal. I just root for whoever runs out of the tunnel with a Gator jersey on.

They are mercenaries just like the coaches now.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
1302 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

I used to follow it but now I loosely follow it because of the portal recruiting. What about you?
Wtf man, are you aware that without HS recruiting there would be no portal? In any case the portal thing is too new to know if a team of mostly mercenaries is the key to success, lasting or flash in the pan one and done.

So far I've seen mixed results with coach Primes squad in Colorado and then of course Mich State, but neither resulted in a conference championship much less playoff berth. I think Freshwater and the Rebs will be something to monitor closely next season, but even if it does work there's no guarantee he can keep bringing in fresh soldiers of fortune every year and have the same results.

I think there is still a lot of value in bringing in high school recruits, immersing them in your team culture and coaching..and only using the portal to fill any talent holes that may crop up from either players leaving for the NFL, transferring for whatever reason or simply not panning out.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
332 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:20 pm to
Yes, it’s still important but class ranks really don’t mean anything more. Basically, it’s usually not the top recruits from a class who transfer out (unless you’re Aggie) but usually the bottom half who don’t pan out or just don’t get two deep spots.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19223 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:22 pm to
I haven't followed recruiting since 2008. It's basically just copium for mediocre teams
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