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Do you still look at high school recruiting the same?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:40 pm
I used to follow it but now I loosely follow it because of the portal recruiting. What about you?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:42 pm to Shaft Williams
Definitely not. I'd say 25% do 3 years of playing time at this point. NIL money will probably get you more talent than anything. Money talks, BS walks. Losing talent and coaches has hurt Saban more than anything. He can't win by hording talent like he did in the past.
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:46 pm to Shaft Williams
I gave up a while ago. With Bama paying players under the table and no one honoring their commitments, it was hard to get invested in it.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:00 pm to Shaft Williams
Not really about who signs the highest ranked class now. It's about who is best at retention of the classes they sign.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:07 pm to Shaft Williams
Why would you? To me, recruiting is now a year to year thing across classes. You have to re-recruit practically your entire team every season. Blue chips any given year will be on a wait and see basis with programs with larger bank accounts.
I would absolutely hate being a college football coach right now. Without contracts or proper rules for NIL, it's far worse than being a pro coach.
I would absolutely hate being a college football coach right now. Without contracts or proper rules for NIL, it's far worse than being a pro coach.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:16 pm to Shaft Williams
I think quality matters for high school. I expect a 75% 25% split for the majority of teams going forward. Maybe even less of a delta …
The portal has changed recruiting
The portal has changed recruiting
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:17 pm to Shaft Williams
The unlimited free agency for players is going to have a reckoning at some point. The carrot will be schools or associated 503 paying the football players, the stick will be contractual agreements that require all parties to consent to ending the contract before terms are complete (with a litany of player and school advantaged termination triggers of course).
We're in the Wild West era of NIL+transfers because the NCAA has abrogated their interests on this front due to a litany of litigation Ls. Eventually the power players are going to agree that something must be done to rationalize the labor-side business of the sport. Part of the reason the NFL doesn't have a D-League is because they know most of these high schoolers are poisonous assets to hold. Eventually several school's collectives are going to get over-committed to dead weight and the money is going to demand a reckoning.
We're in the Wild West era of NIL+transfers because the NCAA has abrogated their interests on this front due to a litany of litigation Ls. Eventually the power players are going to agree that something must be done to rationalize the labor-side business of the sport. Part of the reason the NFL doesn't have a D-League is because they know most of these high schoolers are poisonous assets to hold. Eventually several school's collectives are going to get over-committed to dead weight and the money is going to demand a reckoning.
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:18 pm to Shaft Williams
What an interesting day for a Bama fan to make a thread about how he finds HS recruiting less relevant lolol.
Never change gumps
Never change gumps
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:57 pm to Shaft Williams
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Do you still look at high school recruiting the same?
No. Because of the portal, signing a good player only means you’ll have them for one year. When you actually had to sit out a year to transfer, that deterred a lot of the nonsense. Outside off the field stuff and getting dismissed, transfers were rare
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to Shaft Williams
Barely care. Half the class will leave after a year, portal is open. Doesn't matter much anymore.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to Shaft Williams
I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. What’s the point when players just enter the portal left and right?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:19 pm to Shaft Williams
How can you?
Now it’s only 50% of your roster building efforts
Now it’s only 50% of your roster building efforts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:20 pm to Shaft Williams
Don’t care nearly as much since Joe McKnight shoved it up our asses years ago.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:25 pm to Shaft Williams
I mean there's really not much of a reason to follow it that closely the letter of intent they sign isn't worth the piece of paper that it was written on.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:39 pm to Shaft Williams
The “blue bloods” still recruit high school like it’s 2005. Half the guys you sign from high school wont finish at your program. Kinda meaningless to get excited about highly rated high school classes.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:07 pm to Shaft Williams
I’ll pay attention to offensive linemen more than anything. It seems like they are more subject to stay with a program and develop than other positions.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:17 pm to Shaft Williams
I couldn’t care less about recruiting or the players in the portal. I just root for whoever runs out of the tunnel with a Gator jersey on.
They are mercenaries just like the coaches now.
They are mercenaries just like the coaches now.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:24 pm to Shaft Williams
quote:Wtf man, are you aware that without HS recruiting there would be no portal? In any case the portal thing is too new to know if a team of mostly mercenaries is the key to success, lasting or flash in the pan one and done.
I used to follow it but now I loosely follow it because of the portal recruiting. What about you?
So far I've seen mixed results with coach Primes squad in Colorado and then of course Mich State, but neither resulted in a conference championship much less playoff berth. I think Freshwater and the Rebs will be something to monitor closely next season, but even if it does work there's no guarantee he can keep bringing in fresh soldiers of fortune every year and have the same results.
I think there is still a lot of value in bringing in high school recruits, immersing them in your team culture and coaching..and only using the portal to fill any talent holes that may crop up from either players leaving for the NFL, transferring for whatever reason or simply not panning out.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:20 pm to Shaft Williams
Yes, it’s still important but class ranks really don’t mean anything more. Basically, it’s usually not the top recruits from a class who transfer out (unless you’re Aggie) but usually the bottom half who don’t pan out or just don’t get two deep spots.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:22 pm to Shaft Williams
I haven't followed recruiting since 2008. It's basically just copium for mediocre teams
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