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Washington and Oregon to B1G per Brett McMurphy
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:56 am to WhosYourDaddy
Not looking good for Oregon State, Washington State or Berkeley.
Stanford stands a better chance of landing on their feet, but not exactly sure where, or if they even really care
Stanford stands a better chance of landing on their feet, but not exactly sure where, or if they even really care
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:59 am to WhosYourDaddy
If true, it's good for Washington and Oregon and it's curtains for the Pac 12. Interesting to see who the Big 12 wants to pick up from the remainder.
I'm very curious about Stanford. I think the Big 10 wants to use Stanford to pair with ND if they can bring ND in (they're the last remaining team of note not in the SEC or Big 10). ND plays Stanford every year and it would be a very reasonable pairing both to appease them and add another west coast team for that part of the Big 10.
But if ND isn't ready to go to the Big 10... what does Stanford do in the meantime? Join the Big 12 and deal with potentially leaving that conference later? Go independent (they can afford it)? No idea how that might play out.
I'm very curious about Stanford. I think the Big 10 wants to use Stanford to pair with ND if they can bring ND in (they're the last remaining team of note not in the SEC or Big 10). ND plays Stanford every year and it would be a very reasonable pairing both to appease them and add another west coast team for that part of the Big 10.
But if ND isn't ready to go to the Big 10... what does Stanford do in the meantime? Join the Big 12 and deal with potentially leaving that conference later? Go independent (they can afford it)? No idea how that might play out.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:01 pm to WhosYourDaddy
It’s over. College football is dead.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:02 pm to DawginSC
ND is the only remaining tier one media team left.
UNC is probably tier 2 along with Clemson and FSU, but they are locked in with the GOR for the next decade.
I’m not sure Stanford or the rest of the Pac12 leftovers are even tier 3.
Whoever gets ND will have major leverage with the networks during the next renegotiation.
UNC is probably tier 2 along with Clemson and FSU, but they are locked in with the GOR for the next decade.
I’m not sure Stanford or the rest of the Pac12 leftovers are even tier 3.
Whoever gets ND will have major leverage with the networks during the next renegotiation.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:02 pm to DawginSC
Presumably UA/ASU/UU will go Big 12.
Stanford and Cal being relegated to the Mountain West would be funny.
Stanford and Cal being relegated to the Mountain West would be funny.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:03 pm to WhosYourDaddy
SEC is still winning every year in football
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:06 pm to WhosYourDaddy
From what I've seen of the new media deal, it's a disaster. $20M/school with only streaming on Apple+. Incentives exist but they will require exceeding a threshold on subscriptions. Given that the primary issue with the conference is poor fan support, this seems unlikely.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:06 pm to WhosYourDaddy
SEC needs to obtain some nuclear weapons to prevent this arms race from escalating any further. Who’s campus can we use to build them? State?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:07 pm to WhosYourDaddy
I don't think the SEC needs to react to this. But if Stanford and ND get the BIG to 20, that's an extremely rich and powerful conference. The SEC might need to consider which choice teams it wants out of the ACC.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:11 pm to mouse_cop
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SEC needs to obtain some nuclear weapons to prevent this arms race from escalating any further. Who’s campus can we use to build them? State?
A&M. If there’s a cat. failure, the town already looks like a nuclear test site from back in the day.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:14 pm to JeffLebowski
We do have 2 nuclear reactors on campus
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:15 pm to WhosYourDaddy
What happened with Cal and Stanford? I thought they were supposed to go as well.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:18 pm to ManBearSharkReb
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It’s over. College football is dead.
It really seems that way
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:18 pm to WhosYourDaddy
How desperate are FSU and Clemson atm? They're probably frantically calling everyone and screaming, lmao.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:18 pm to bah7tea
Stanford can make independence work for football, if they decide to self-fund the athletics department (big if); might be tough sledding in terms of scheduling the first few years with all of the conference musical chairs but they'll get USC/Cal/Notre Dame annually and you can easily rotate two or three more major programs per year before plugging the gap with G5 schools.
I have no idea how Stanford would handle being a basketball independent, though. Chicago State "did" it last season, but their schedule was wild and it stands to reason that Stanford wants to play bigger programs than Hartford and a bunch of D3 knockarounds. Stanford has enough equity in Olympic sports to ride out that independence, and they love Olympic sports so that's nice, but it's not like you can just freely use your massive endowment to fund sports and the amount of cash you'd require (which Stanford could easily support with a fraction of returns) might be appalling to faculty and brass.
I have no idea how Stanford would handle being a basketball independent, though. Chicago State "did" it last season, but their schedule was wild and it stands to reason that Stanford wants to play bigger programs than Hartford and a bunch of D3 knockarounds. Stanford has enough equity in Olympic sports to ride out that independence, and they love Olympic sports so that's nice, but it's not like you can just freely use your massive endowment to fund sports and the amount of cash you'd require (which Stanford could easily support with a fraction of returns) might be appalling to faculty and brass.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:19 pm to Matts El Rancho
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Not looking good for Oregon State, Washington State or Berkeley.
Probably go to Big 12 to keep them somewhat relevant
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:24 pm to deltaland
West Coast teams need games in national prime time to survive. This move was inevitable. The Pac cannot survive on late night games for the vast majority of the country.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:24 pm to bah7tea
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The SEC might need to consider which choice teams it wants out of the ACC.
If we're gonna do the super conference thing, I'd be looking at UNC and UVA. Might as well add 2 more states to round out the "South"
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