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Lincoln Riley states his real reason for leaving OU and going to USC.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:36 pm
He says it didn't have anything to do with coming to the SEC but rather that he could never recruit to a high enough level to win it all at OU.
That's a pretty big admission but I'm not sure I buy it altogether. It's also basically what Brian Kelly was saying about leaving ND. It will be interesting to see if the difficulty recruiting to a specific school (IE OU or ND) really was the problem by watching what happens at their new stops.
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“I’ve walked into four playoffs, and I’ve never had better than maybe the third-best roster [of the four semifinal teams],” Riley admitted.
“Every other year, we were four of four. We had really good rosters, but they weren’t the same. … I can’t imagine that there could be a setting that we could build a better roster than we can here.”
That's a pretty big admission but I'm not sure I buy it altogether. It's also basically what Brian Kelly was saying about leaving ND. It will be interesting to see if the difficulty recruiting to a specific school (IE OU or ND) really was the problem by watching what happens at their new stops.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:38 pm to Tideroller
LOL - yea, cause his problem at Oklahoma was skill players on offense.
He's gonna sign the same types of kids at every position as he did at Oklahoma. He signed elite skill kids year after year at OU at QB/WR. They weren't his issue. His issue was the other side of the ball, specifically in the front 7, and he won't sign anything any differently out there either.
He's gonna sign the same types of kids at every position as he did at Oklahoma. He signed elite skill kids year after year at OU at QB/WR. They weren't his issue. His issue was the other side of the ball, specifically in the front 7, and he won't sign anything any differently out there either.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:39 pm to Tideroller
He's 100 percent right, OU is not gonna like this move.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:40 pm to Tideroller
Lol, I call BS. Didn't he basically recruit his current USC class while at OU?
Oklahoma wasn't the problem in recruiting, it was the players Riley wanted to recruit, i.e. zero defense.
Oklahoma wasn't the problem in recruiting, it was the players Riley wanted to recruit, i.e. zero defense.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:41 pm to Tideroller
And all of his rosters at OU were, by far, the most talented in the Big 12.
So what he's saying is he can only win when he has a team that more talented across the board than his competition.
Will probably work out about the same for him at USC as it did at OU. Lots of wins and conference titles. But he still won't compete with SEC teams in the playoffs.
So what he's saying is he can only win when he has a team that more talented across the board than his competition.
Will probably work out about the same for him at USC as it did at OU. Lots of wins and conference titles. But he still won't compete with SEC teams in the playoffs.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:42 pm to Tideroller
Not sure USC can anymore. Carroll was pre SEC Domination and the conference recruits blue chips at a high rate nationwide.
West coast kids coming south these days to play against the best.
West coast kids coming south these days to play against the best.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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His issue was the other side of the ball
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:44 pm to Tideroller
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He says it didn't have anything to do with coming to the SEC
So he went to the weak12. Yeah, right.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:47 pm to lewis and herschel
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Not sure USC can anymore
They can if they decide to play NIL games...
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:47 pm to thatthang
Won't matter how many NIL games they play if they don't teach sound defense.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:47 pm to Tideroller
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It's also basically what Brian Kelly was saying about leaving ND
The difference is in the 15 years before BK got there, they mostly sucked. He might not have gotten them over the hump but he elevated them back to at least a top 10 / 15 team every year.
Riley took over a program that has won a national championship and played for 2 more in that same 15 year period.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:49 pm to Tideroller
Whose fault is that? Oklahoma is a plenty big enough name to recruit to.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:51 pm to Tideroller
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He says it didn't have anything to do with coming to the SEC
The teams he is talking about not being able to compete with are SEC teams. He knew what was going to happen when he would have to start playing those same teams in conference instead of the weak Big12 teams he was use to.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:52 pm to j1897
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OU is not gonna like this move.
Agree 100%. OU has become accustomed to being the only big dog in their conference, with the deepest and most talented roster every year.
It's going to be an adjustment when they get to the SEC and have, at best, the 4th or 5th best roster in the league.
The expectations of 10+ wins and a conference title in almost every season is going to hit a brick wall of reality.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Won't matter how many NIL games they play if they don't teach sound defense.
yup. When your team gives up an average of 50 points in 4 playoff games, you may want to rethink how you build your teams to compete when you get there.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:59 pm to Tideroller
NIL is an absolute godsend for a team like USC.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:01 pm to Tideroller
Remember, Riley was a 100% lock to be LSU's coach but he went to USC due to being scared of the SEC.
It's the internet. You can have it both ways.
It's the internet. You can have it both ways.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:04 pm to Tideroller
Oklahoma is the next Nebraska.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Won't matter how many NIL games they play if they don't teach sound defense.
That's the funny part: he brought that same defensive coordinator with him and his "speed D" concept requires lighter, quicker D-linemen.
While acknowledging Los Angeles is a very large and wealthy metro area, I'm not convinced there's a bigger college football NIL market there than most typical football-crazy states. Most LA folks don't give a shite about the Trojans. Their Carroll heyday was a "build it, THEN the fans will come" situation, but LR is no Pete Carroll. The dude's never built a program, in fact he was handed a well-oiled machine (albeit with a shite DC.. thanks Bob) which regressed year over year under his leadership. The USC experiment will be fun to watch.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:07 pm to Ag Zwin
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Oklahoma is the next Nebraska.
You wish
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