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re: This is why playoff expansion is stupid

Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:48 pm to
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Even if they don’t have a shot at all, expansion keeps everyone in cfb tuned in. 


This cannot be stated enough. In its current format the rich just get richer because who wants to go to a school who doesn't even get a look.

The entire west half of the country has been disengaged at this point.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:50 pm to
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you win those games you're in the NY6 and fringe playoff talk anyway. You choked it away just like you would have with the playoff at 12


No, it isn’t. It’s not the same. Playing for a bowl and playing for a spot in the tourney are very different. If you win in the tourney you advance to the next round.

Yes, UK choked after losing to UGA. We should have played much better against MSU but the UT game is a special circumstance. We could be undefeated and the best team in the country but we would still fade against Tennessee, so you really can’t count that one against us. I’ll never understand it.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3421 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:51 pm to
I’d rather watch 4 extra playoff games vs 4 meaningless bowl games.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:52 pm to
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Even if they don’t have a shot at all, expansion keeps everyone in cfb tuned in. It may not change the final result but opening the door for fringe programs to have a possibility of playing on that stage is huge. Play one less nonconference game against a terrible team and it solves itself. Would be good for cfb all around. Keeps players from opting out too




That's an argument for conference expansion, not playoff expansion.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
19785 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:53 pm to
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Ole Miss, really funny.


I bet we would beat your team.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:54 pm to
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I’d rather watch 4 extra playoff games vs 4 meaningless bowl games.


The season is the playoff. You're sacrificing all the drama of the season for some extra playoff games that likely won't significantly change the landscape.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
7828 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:55 pm to
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A 12-team playoff would give more SEC teams a chance to get in


This is the silliest crap imaginable. Because ..

Round one 12 teams

Round two 6 teams left to play

Round three 3 teams left to play

Who gets the bye? The number one team that then gets a two week rest to kick the hell out of number two or three that survives?

Why not end it there and award the Natty to the Bye team?

Four teams work and eight teams work. Everyone plays the same number of games to get to the final.
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:55 pm to
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That's an argument for conference expansion, not playoff expansion.


Explain...

Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2555 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:00 pm to
Idk where you pulled that quote from but it wasn’t me. I think 8 is the number. I don’t think teams should get byes in the playoff
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
23769 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:00 pm to
An expanded playoff allows an opportunity for more upsets and If anything was learned from the SECCG is that Georgia was very beatable. Michigan and Cincinnati can certainly beat Georgia. Notre Dame, Oklahoma State and Baylor would be competitive games.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:05 pm to
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Explain...


The conferences that are "left behind" need to become more competitive. The Pac 12 and ACC should be lucky that the SEC chose to raid the Big 12 instead of the Big East and ACC in 2012, or else the Big 12 would have raided the PAC and left them and the ACC on the outside looking in, and the PAC would have been doubly fricked
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:12 pm to
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An expanded playoff allows an opportunity for more upsets and If anything was learned from the SECCG is that Georgia was very beatable. Michigan and Cincinnati can certainly beat Georgia. Notre Dame, Oklahoma State and Baylor would be competitive games.


You're overthinking that result yesterday. There are very few teams that could do what Alabama did to Georgia, it's just that Alabama had played so badly up to that point that people (myself included) just assumed that Alabama had lost that edge. We're so used to Alabama reloading that we forget that it's supposed to take time for teams to recover from losing that many draft picks. Alabama is just finally putting it together, and while I do think Michigan can play with Georgia, they're one of maybe a handful of teams who can, and I don't think Ok St, ND, or Baylor could. Georgia wins games in the trenches and there just aren't that many squads in the country who have the line play to hang with them.
Posted by stang22
Member since Nov 2013
46 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:25 pm to
Round one top four get byes. All sets up for 8 teams after that.
Posted by stang22
Member since Nov 2013
46 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:29 pm to
I give the same answer to a 12 team football playoff as I do the idea of an expanded NCAA hoops tournament: Will you watch?

I sure as hell will.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10204 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:36 pm to
Also, it would give middling programs like A&M’s, UK’s and others more motivation to win. The Citrus Bowl is a nice reward for the Cat’s record this year but it would be much more exciting if we had beaten Miss State or UT and were up for one of the 12 playoff positions.


No offense the the great Cat nation but you have no business ever being in the football national championship conversation.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21844 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:39 pm to
Expansion is ruining college football. You already had the NFL (and it sucks). Now, we have to make college football just like it.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5411 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:40 pm to
Expanding the playoff will not hurt regular season games if you play more conference games and reward the best conference champions with bye weeks, seeding etc.

I think every conference should play 10 conference games. There should also be some type of ncaa governing body arranging 1 of your 2 out of conference matchups at the beginning of the year based of the previous years performances. You pick 1 cupcake and that’s it. Every week would be full of big schools playing meaningful games vs 2 good games a week.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5605 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:41 pm to
TAMU was crying so much last year wanting expansion. I guess not being in the top 5 changes things?
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
35217 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:42 pm to
Ole Miss would beat UGA. It’s a shame they don’t get a chance
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
23769 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:43 pm to
No overthinking a bout it. Saban won't stay at Bama forever and you will have more one loss teams in the future. The SEC is the best conference now but they will have some lean years. Bama never lost the edge but play a schedule full of good teams that were good enough to beat them. ND, Oklahoma State and Baylor can compete with Georgia because they don't have a QB. That weakness is enough for other teams to compete with Georgia. Those teams aren't scrubs.

Bama didn't play great all year but they were good enough to win the SEC and while it could be said that Georgia has more talent than Bama, they have a shitty QB that had no business starting for Georgia. That is why they lost and when you have a weak QB that will give other teams a chance.

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