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What exactly happened with Tuberville at the end of '08?
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:38 pm
As we know, it was reported that he resigned after the season, yet we're still paying him his buyout I believe (which would make you think we fired him).
Now that it's nearly 8 years later, can anyone shed factual light on how his exit occurred? Did he actually resign on his own terms?
I've been curious for a while, and I figured we're far enough down the road to get answers.
Now that it's nearly 8 years later, can anyone shed factual light on how his exit occurred? Did he actually resign on his own terms?
I've been curious for a while, and I figured we're far enough down the road to get answers.
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:09 am to AUNashville
I believe he was straight up fired but both parties agreed to treat it like a resignation to save face
1-Tubs get to maintain reputation
2- AU doesn't have to deal with Tubz partisans who'd be pissed at firing him given his success
Tubs also had major personal issues that would make it okay to leave. Wife supposedly was a CockGobler (in honor of Thanksgiving)
1-Tubs get to maintain reputation
2- AU doesn't have to deal with Tubz partisans who'd be pissed at firing him given his success
Tubs also had major personal issues that would make it okay to leave. Wife supposedly was a CockGobler (in honor of Thanksgiving)
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 12:10 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:10 am to AUNashville
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:32 am to AUNashville
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we're still paying him his buyout
20 years later people will still believe this myth. We aren't paying Chizik either just in case you thought that too.
And he was obviously fired. Do you believe people when they say the break up was "mutual" because I can tell you without knowing them that it wasn't.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 12:40 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:52 am to GenesChin
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Wife supposedly was a CockGobler
^^This.
This made him not want to spend as much time away recruiting and such.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:06 am to AUNashville
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What exactly happened with Tuberville at the end of '08?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:12 am to LanierSpots
There were personal problems. He had beaten Bama 6 in a row, so he was safe. He couldn't commit to the effort needed. He has been seen in Auburn gear, his son played at Auburn, he still loves Auburn, etc. EVERYONE pays buyouts unless they get fired for cause. I am in the mutual camp.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:51 am to allin2010
Tubs quit. He met with the AD, was asked for a plan going forward, asked to think about it for a few hours and came back and resigned. Know who says so? Tubs. And you know what lends credence? He did more or less the same thing at Texas Tech. When asked for a plan to improve going forward, he quit. Simple as that.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:51 am to Je23Mo
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Why coaches can thank Auburn and Tommy Tuberville for $20 million-plus buyouts
That article just passes by the fact that salaries have skyrocketed since 2003 and NFL coaching contracts were more of the reasons for skyrocketing buyouts. Tuberville had little to do with it
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:54 am to AUNashville
RUMOR I've heard as that he was asked to clean house with assistants and was going to refuse that. There was supposedly a clause in his contract after Jetgate that allowed him to resign with his buyout if Auburn contacted another coach while he was employed. The story was Rane contacted Houston Nutt (who was also represented by Sexton), he told, and Tuberville went to Auburn and collected his buyout which Rane was forced to pay.
I've come to learn I don't really believe a GD thing I hear out of Auburn anymore, but that's the story I've been rolling with for 8 years. It could all be bullshite.
I've come to learn I don't really believe a GD thing I hear out of Auburn anymore, but that's the story I've been rolling with for 8 years. It could all be bullshite.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:57 am to NYCAuburn
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That article just passes by the fact that salaries have skyrocketed since 2003 and NFL coaching contracts were more of the reasons for skyrocketing buyouts. Tuberville had little to do with it
Yeah I thought it was a stretch to blame that on Tuberville and Auburn. His buyout was only $5 million so why not blame it on whoever took it from $5 mill to $20 mill?
Seems like that's a bigger jump
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 7:58 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:58 am to NYCAuburn
The guy who wrote that article for cbs used to work for al.com...
A 40 point shutout in Tuscaloosa happened... 9 years at one place is about the max these days. It was best for everyone to pet ways.
A 40 point shutout in Tuscaloosa happened... 9 years at one place is about the max these days. It was best for everyone to pet ways.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:00 am to Weagle25
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Yeah I thought it was a stretch to blame that on Tuberville and Auburn. His buyout was only $5 million so why not blame it on whoever took it from $5 mill to $20 mill?
Seems like that's a bigger jump
They used normal inflation as the gauge rather than coaching salary inflation, which is on a whole other level.
Coaches were being poached by the NFL, where coaching contracts are pretty much 100% guaranteed as well. Tubs had nothing to do with it
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:02 am to Weagle25
Fired, resigned...He did resign. Mainly because he caught our incompetent AD and boosters working behind his back to contact of all people Houston Nutt. Can you imagine? Thanks to 2003 he had a clause that gave him the ability to walk away if something like that happened with all his money. He took it.
My guess is he could see the writing on the wall with Saban and bama.
I also believe they were going to force some major changes on him or dismiss. He wouldn't have accepted the changes so getting fired was probably going to happen as well.
My guess is he could see the writing on the wall with Saban and bama.
I also believe they were going to force some major changes on him or dismiss. He wouldn't have accepted the changes so getting fired was probably going to happen as well.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:49 am to AUNashville
The same thing that may happen to Gus. Too loyal to assistants that should be gone.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:53 am to jvilletiger25
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Too loyal to assistants
One of them at least
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:01 am to DuncanIdaho
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RUMOR I've heard as that he was asked to clean house with assistants and was going to refuse that. There was supposedly a clause in his contract after Jetgate that allowed him to resign with his buyout if Auburn contacted another coach while he was employed. The story was Rane contacted Houston Nutt (who was also represented by Sexton), he told, and Tuberville went to Auburn and collected his buyout which Rane was forced to pay.
I've come to learn I don't really believe a GD thing I hear out of Auburn anymore, but that's the story I've been rolling with for 8 years. It could all be bullshite.
This has been my understanding. Rane contacted Nutt to feel him out and it trickled back to Sexton and Tubbs. He resigned using the jet gate clause and got his payout. That money was paid off before Chizik was let go and I think Chizik was still getting paid up to 2014 or 2015 his annual salary.
The (supposed) fact is that Rane fricked up but Tubbs knew he couldn't do shite when forced to compete with heavy hitters that were going to beat him 365 days a year. This is why I'm not in the fire Malzahn bandwagon and won't be. If Sabah retires and we still can't get back to the top, then we look at getting rid of him but until then, it is damn near impossible to overcome the talent gap.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:54 am to DuncanIdaho
quote:Until I see Rane admit that publicly, I'm going to continue to call bullshite on that particular story.
The story was Rane contacted Houston Nutt (who was also represented by Sexton), he told, and Tuberville went to Auburn and collected his buyout which Rane was forced to pay.
Yella Fella may come off as a bumpkin, but the sumbitch isn't stupid enough to give Tubs and Sexton an out like that. And he knew that clause was in the contract.
ETA: I sometimes wonder what might have happened if he had gone ahead and resigned in '03 after JetGate went public. You may not recall, that was considered a strong possibility - that he would just say frick it, y'all pay me a big settlement in lieu of a nasty lawsuit, and I'll go work elsewhere.
It would have been pretty interesting to see how AU would have reacted, and whom we would have pursued for HC in December of '03 (assuming Petrino would have been off our list due to the controversy).
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:33 am to FearlessFreep
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Until I see Rane admit that publicly, I'm going to continue to call bullshite on that particular story.
Dude, there is always a portion of Auburn fandom whose initial reaction, even without knowing ANY facts about the situation, is inevitably "Auburn is wrong" or "Auburn screwed up".
I can only suspect that Bobby Lowder must have molested them at a young age or Jay Jacobs tied them down in a chair and made them watch while he banged their mother.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:37 am to beatbammer
I thought we had paid most everyone off including Chizik last year.
As for Tubby, that was a weird scenario that he was leaving on his own but we still paid him $6M buyout. I am sure there was something there.
How about Jimbo with a $33.1M buyout clause?!? I want to party with his agent!
As for Tubby, that was a weird scenario that he was leaving on his own but we still paid him $6M buyout. I am sure there was something there.
How about Jimbo with a $33.1M buyout clause?!? I want to party with his agent!
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