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re: Old Recruiting Thread: RIP insiders

Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:01 pm to
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his OL guys were spotty at best


Gunner Britton was really damn good.

Wade has all SEC potential if he gets moved to Guard.

Senda has potential to be a multi year starter.

Think they did really good in the OL considering the time they had.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
696 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:11 pm to
We were a 3 win team tops before Freeze rebuilt the roster. This season was frustrating to fans because we dropped several games we had a chance to win, and the offense looked inept at points. With that being said we've given ourselves a fighting chance and flipped the talent at key positions. If we don't destroy ourselves with negative energy that our own fanbase is spreading then we should be ok.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
11000 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:12 pm to
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These guys are making deals fast
Yep, he's not able to get that warm fuzzy feeling like with HS recruiting.

Portal seems to loaded with that, 'you've got 30 min to buy'. Where it's tempting, but pretty much a long shot with their fit and culture. Need's be damn... I like what he's doing. We doing chemo due to some of that now.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:14 pm to
Muskrat didnt do too bad either.

The other side of the coin, what on earth would our OL, DL, and LB looked like WITHOUT the portal. That is a scary thought.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:25 pm to
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I think last year got help from the hype for hiring him. This year he either got just beat out or focused so much on HS kids that he missed the best options we had a shot at in the portal.





Or, one year kids dont want to play for a team that is losing to high school teams and giving up 4th and 32

Sucking that bad has consequences.

Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26808 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:33 pm to
I think that’s more the case. These portal guys want to win immediately. They don’t want to hear a pitch about how much better the team will be in their second or third year.

If we finished the year beating NMST and Bama I think we are having success with these guys.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37147 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:50 pm to
Judkins ditching a playoff caliber team for another shows we are in strange days.



Recruiting is whole new monster, unrecognizable even from the Gus days. A lot has changed quickly.


I feel like Hugh deserves more leash here but he literally pitched the portal to us.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33433 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:58 pm to
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If we finished the year beating NMST and Bama I think we are having success with these guys.


Agreed. The future is elite HS kids, the now is portal guys. IMO, I think folks see more clearly where the program is. And I don’t think we need a ton of G5 transfers now even if they’re high performers. Freeze thought they hit on a lot of his 2023 class. The 2024 class is highly ranked and has a lot of potential and the 2025 class has started off really well.

We need the young guys in and developing at this point. These first few years if a coach’s tenure can suck arse and it’s why we need to eventually hit on one of these guys. Hoping it’s Freeze
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:05 pm to

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2019 LSU was the outlier. 2010 Auburn was the outlier.

If you want to win a title, you do it in the trenches. Any CFB coach that isn’t talking about needing the best big men in football to win rings is wasting your time.


LSU also won the Joe Moore offensive line award.


I found Jville's arse.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:19 pm to
Everytime someone wins a natty folks try to reframe football around what worked for that particular team
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:35 pm to
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Or, one year kids dont want to play for a team that is losing to high school teams and giving up 4th and 32

Sucking that bad has consequences.
The type of players we need, namely at QB, are more easily sold on getting to play if the players there aren't preforming. Alot are just chasing the most money right now.

There is no excuse for NMST but even losing to Bama with 2 plays that would have won it for us (most likely) shows we aren't far from a decent team.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8664 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:43 pm to
The yearly bed shitting bowl performance has to stop too
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17064 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 6:43 pm to
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2019 LSU was the outlier. 2010 Auburn was the outlier. If you want to win a title, you do it in the trenches.


Is this person mental? Both of those teams had really good lines. 2010 Auburn had both good oline and dline play. In fact, it was the dline that dominated Oregon’s oline was the deciding factor that game.

You know what both of those teams had too? A great QB. In fact, the real outlier is finding many teams that have won a natty with mediocre QB play. Ironically, uat has done it twice: 1992 and 2009.

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I found Jville's arse.

Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:35 pm to
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I'm okay with it. It seems as though this rebuild is going to take a bit longer than any of us want it to. At least White will have some premium receivers to throw to and he has the arm for it.


You're assuming those guys stick around. Not likely in todays climate especially if we can't put points on the board and highlight their abilities.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30971 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:51 pm to
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LSU also won the Joe Moore offensive line award.


Our lines were actually really good that year. Our secondary was not.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37147 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:31 pm to
Well played
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13682 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:44 am to
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You're assuming those guys stick around. Not likely in todays climate especially if we can't put points on the board and highlight their abilities.


24 this is my concern as well. Thompson and Coleman we have in house are 3 and done. They will play early and often, but if we cant make those throws, they wont waste time on "hope".

Kind of leads to the point of playing Walker, Brown, etc this year. Heaven forbid we have a stumbling year with Thorne this fall, then have to start all over with an inexperienced QB in year two of their careers, they will probably bolt.

I remember the advice of a fat, ugly, filthy rich businessman from the mountains of Norton VA. He had a stunningly beautiful and lovely wife. I asked him how in the hell he could end up with her and he said "catch em young and get em pregnant, they far less likely to leave".

Im speaking metaphorically of course, Im not suggesting some of you make advances on the players as some of you have implied with former QBs...not to name names
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2973 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:04 am to
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2010 Auburn was the outlier.
Lol 2 OL from that team went pro and there was an unblockable tackle on the defensive front. The WR position wasn’t elite.

The team also had a bunch of sleeper NFL talent on defense like Byrnes.

The real anomaly in CFB is winning championships with a bad QB. Swap Milroe with any of the other playoff QBs and watch how it goes.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2973 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:06 am to
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You're assuming those guys stick around. Not likely in todays climate especially if we can't put points on the board and highlight their abilities.
I was thinking the same thing. If we struggle throwing the ball they’re going to bolt. No WR wants to play with a shitty QB
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
4759 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:10 am to
Take Milroe off of Alabama and they lose to us, Arky and A&M.
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