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re: Citrus Bowl thread, I guess

Posted on 1/1/21 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34863 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 3:41 pm to
It’s amazing how apathetic Malzahn has made me about Auburn football. That is probably the biggest frick you I have to give to him.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 3:41 pm to
END OF THE GUS ERA

R.I.P.

And remember to pay your 2milliom!!!!
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 3:42 pm to
I guess Gus left his playbook. I wasn’t sure what else to expect, but man, that was awful.
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
1345 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 3:44 pm to
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Why can’t we through a slant or even a drag?


I’ve never understood why Gus wouldn’t give his QB easy routes like those. His offense was always run it or bomb it. When he didn’t have a run game he sucked.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6383 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 4:01 pm to
Why leave his book behind? All the pages were colored in a long time ago. He and Chris can take it with him and become the richest High School Coaches in America.

I heard most small town Waffle Houses have a coaches corner.
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1773 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Wrong.


Wrong. At that point Auburn needed 2 more TD's. By going for it there and not getting it it meant Auburn would have had to get two TD's plus two 2pt conversions which is a lot less likely than just waiting till the last TD and trying one there.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30815 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 5:13 pm to
You're wrong and I'll try and help you understand why.

First, your premise is false. We had to get a 2 point conversion at some point right? How does waiting until the last potential touchdown increase the odds of converting?

If we miss it going for it after the first try it's still a two possession game. If we miss it going for it on the last TD we are SOL and need a hypothetical 4th possession.

Going for it early is unquestionably the correct decision.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 5:16 pm to
You don’t typically go for it that early. There are situations where you could get a field goal and
Losing that point could cost you


Good coaches don’t typically chase points that early in the game.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7882 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 5:26 pm to
There were only 5 minutes left... going for 2 was clearly the correct option both analytically and intuitively
Posted by AUViclic
Member since Jun 2013
144 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:17 pm to
Obvious you know nothing about sports. Wait as long as you can to go for two, keeps the pressure on the other team. Same thing happens with smart teams in basketball late in the game, get the two and foul and keep the pressure up don't just jack an ill advised 3.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6343 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:25 pm to
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What does he do that tells you he can play the position? Accuracy? Decision making?


The bad accuracy is a result of shitty mechanics our prior guru felt no need to fix, and his decision making is defensible considering our sieve of a line.

These things can be coached. Let's wait and see.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15746 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:53 pm to
Until we get better upfront, both in talent, technique, and scheme, it’s going to be hard to be a great offense.

Protection of the QB is paramount. To throw accurately, you need time to set and throw.

Did you see the simple blitz in the A gap where Worm ran right by the blitzer?

Got to pick that up.

Also receivers must understand how to adjust routes, but all we have is a bubble, a tunnel and a go.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26681 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 7:09 pm to
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Obvious you know nothing about sports. Wait as long as you can to go for two, keeps the pressure on the other team. Same thing happens with smart teams in basketball late in the game, get the two and foul and keep the pressure up don't just jack an ill advised 3.

Actually you go for the 2 point conversion in that situation. Going then means at best you have to convert 1/3 and at worst you have to convert 2/3 as opposed to having to convert on your one your one attempt. Allows for more room for error.

As for basketball, I agree that you don’t just throw up a bad three but the fact of the matter is you take the open shot in that scenario. An open three earlier in the clock >>>> a forced three at the buzzer because the other team knows you need it.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6343 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 7:30 pm to
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Did you see the simple blitz in the A gap where Worm ran right by the blitzer?

Got to pick that up.


I think I speak for everyone here when I ask the question "WHAT IN THE frick IS HE DOING?!"

He allowed a free pass rusher with the shortest route to the QB to come right up the gut. I don't give a shite that your gap assignment is 2 or 4 or 6. That is a basic football play on which he failed.

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Also receivers must understand how to adjust routes, but all we have is a bubble, a tunnel and a go.


Well Gus is gone and hopefully a full route tree is in our near future.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30815 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 10:48 pm to
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Obvious you know nothing about sports


Obviously you know nothing about statistics, logic, or common sense. I know it's rare to acknowledge you're wrong on a message board but sometimes when it's so obvious you have no choice. Or at least just let it ride, don't double down on yourself.

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, get the two and foul and keep the pressure up don't just jack an ill advised 3.


This was your attempt at an analogous situation? Jacking up an ill advised 3 is a much lower percentage shot than taking a 2.

Going for two in football whether there are 5 min. left or 1 min. left are the same probability.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30815 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 10:50 pm to
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Good coaches don’t typically chase points that early in the game.


There was 4:41 left in the game.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 6:52 am to
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There was 4:41 left in the game.



Yea, I would say the time was about right but being so many points behind, you typically kick it and move on.

I think we need to check the chart. Anyone got a copy?
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