re: Can Harsin fix Nix or does he look for a transfer?

Nix will be fine. Harsin needs to coach him up. Yall dont go full retard.

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I think letting Bo just be a pro style system QB he might be alright, right now the OC wants him to play the plays the sideline calls and nothing else--if it breaks down they want him to rush and/or run and pass. With pro style he's more likely to sit in the pocket and make his own audibles and reads.

I want you to look at passes where Bo has his feet planted versus passes where he forces a run pass. He is way more on the money with feet planted, even those long throws that are usually over the head w/o he hits right on for those. I think Harsin being a former QB, and known to develop QBs from nothing like Kellen Mooore he has a chance to do the same.

Bo hasn't really played in a pro style throughout his career HS included, which is where the major adjustments will come. This would make Bo a much better rounded QB than what he currently is if Bo puts in the work to get past that learning curve.

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system issue

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One of the throws that Gus depended on way to much was the outside the number, drop it in the basket throw. It requires tremendous precision. When the defense knows the route tree, it’s very difficult to thread the needle.

I think Harsin attacks all pets of the field in the passing game. Short, intermediate, and deep.
We’ve not spent much time attacking the middle of the field.

Bo actually threw some decent slants. The two point play against MSU, the TD at USC.

He will need to work hard or he will be benched.

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I can’t think of an NFL throw I’ve seen from him. Doesn’t mean there hasn’t been one, but nothing stands out about him. I can think of plenty of throws he has missed, that NFL guys make 6 or 7 times out of 10.

Aaron Murray was a much better QB than him. He was drafted in the 5th round.

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The whole discussion is absurd. How can anyone look at his stat sheet over two seasons of starting and seriously state "yup, that guy is a 1st rounder" without massive bias? The NFL does not scout based off of stats, but anyone who has watched him play objectively can easily see that the stat sheet correlates with the actual play on the field. He legitimately has more abysmal plays/pass attempts than plays that an NFL personnel/scout would highlight as "NFL plays". As of today, he wouldn't even be drafted. Zero accuracy and horrible mechanics/bad habits - that's basically a death-kiss by NFL standards.

Now, if one wants to optimistic and state that he can improve then go ahead. But to be drafted as a 1st round QB requires absolutely elite tools and performance. If Nix can improve to get to that point, then so can every other starting QB in the country because most of those guys are already better than Bo Nix. I don't think that some of you really comprehend what NFL standards are - especially in the first round for a QB. Mac Jones is probably a mid-late first round pick this season and he completed nearly 80% of his freaking passes, was virtually perfect throwing down-field, is much bigger than Bo Nix, and is considerably more fundamentally sound.

This HAS to be innoculated bias due to WHO he is because I've never seen a player get this much unquestioned support and undeserved hype despite accomplishing virtually nothing. I wasn't seeing anyone still proclaiming Jeremy Johnson or Sean White as 1st round QB's after it became obvious that they weren't going to become that, but with Bo Nix it's as if nothing he does on the field even matters. He has "elite arm talent" without ever completing any elite throws. All of his million flaws are going to get fixed no problem (despite the fact that most guys who are this sloppy fundamentally rarely ever improve enough to go from undrafted to 1st round). Bo Nix isn't even Jarrett Stidham who was considerably more productive with better tools and passing, and only ended up drafted in the 4th round. Bo Nix has a considerably higher probability of losing his starting position at Auburn than he does of being selected in the 1st round at this point in time.

By the way, people always bring up Jason Campbell as an example of a guy who struggled and finally figured it out as a SR with the right coach, but don't even realize that even in Campbell's three "failure" seasons he was completing 62.7%, 63.1%, and 61.8% of his passes while playing in West Coast/Pro Style offenses. Bo Nix hasn't even cracked 60% completion playing in a Mickey Mouse offense that throws 5-10 screen passes/other similar dink & dunk passes a game. And he's not even particularly accurate on those throws either. Bo Nix is considerably further behind what Jason Campbell was, and of course he's nowhere near Campbell's NFL tool-set (6'5 230 pounds and ran a 4.72 at the Combine and jumped 38").

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He has "elite arm talent" without ever completing any elite throws.

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Does Bo “paint pictures with his balls” like Snowboard Cam?

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This, of course, isn't true.

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Maybe try looking at a stat sheet.

In his true Sophomore season, playing in his 1st season at Auburn in the SEC, Stidham completed 66.5% of his passes for a 151.0 passing efficiency, with 18 TD's to 6 INT's.

In his disappointing Junior season he completed 60.7% of his passes (137.7 passing efficiency) with 18 TD's and 5 INT's.

Bo Nix has completed 57.6% and 59.9% of his passes in two seasons. Passing efficiency of 125.0 and 123.9. Less touchdowns and more interceptions than Stidham as well. Stidham was also much better than Nix was as a true freshman, if you want to consider that as well.

The fact that I even have to explain that Stidham was CLEARLY more productive/a better QB playing in the same system proves that you people literally have your heads up your asses.

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Nix would be a lot better if he stood tall and and took a few steps up. He only wants to go sideways.

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Not really sure how you can say Nix went backwards this year... his numbers improved

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Actually, his QB rating declined slightly (125.03 in 2019, 123.94 in 2020), and his TDs/INTs both went the wrong way(16/6 last year, 12/7 this year on 20 fewer attempts). His yards per attempt went up, but just barely (6.7 to 6.8).

So I think saying 'his numbers improved' doesn't exactly jibe with reality.

The uncomfortable truth is, the Bo Nix we saw in game #25 vs Northwestern looked an awful lot like the one we saw in game #1 vs Oregon. That's not what you would expect from an 'elite' QB.