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re: Can Harsin fix Nix or does he look for a transfer?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:32 pm to CorchJay
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:32 pm to CorchJay
Prior to this season. Jordan palmer's reply
Will Bo Nix get drafted?
Although it's premature, we already have a prediction for the 2022 NFL Draft. Jordan Palmer, a former NFL quarterback and current guru for the position, believes Bo Nix will be the first player taken in 2022. ... If Nix continues to develop over the next two years at Auburn, he should be an elite prospect.
Will Bo Nix get drafted?
Although it's premature, we already have a prediction for the 2022 NFL Draft. Jordan Palmer, a former NFL quarterback and current guru for the position, believes Bo Nix will be the first player taken in 2022. ... If Nix continues to develop over the next two years at Auburn, he should be an elite prospect.
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:33 pm to CorchJay
quote:Welp
If Nix continues to develop over the next two years at Auburn, he should be an elite prospect.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:33 pm to CorchJay
Also right now, after 2020 season. Bo is rated number 36 overall and predicted a 2nd round pick. With a percentage of 25% of being a first round pick.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:38 pm to CorchJay
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Bo Nix will be an NFL QB. He will be drafted in the 1st round unless he gets some kind of serious injury.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:40 pm to tilco
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:47 pm to bluedragon
I mean: "Scrambling for his life over and over again, his pocket presence has become a worry for the future"
One follows the other. Bo is not being put in a position to succeed.
How does one exhibit pocket presence when there is no pocket to speak of?
One follows the other. Bo is not being put in a position to succeed.
How does one exhibit pocket presence when there is no pocket to speak of?
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:56 pm to Bigbens42
When the Offensive line grade is an "F" and the only comment
"Someone needs to clean up this mess"....That about describes it all.
But, in the eyes of some people .... Superman is at Quarterback and has no excuse.
"Someone needs to clean up this mess"....That about describes it all.
But, in the eyes of some people .... Superman is at Quarterback and has no excuse.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:58 pm to CorchJay
He’s certainly a potential high draft pick. One of the things not listed are the intangibles...ability to escape and create, extend plays, get first downs with his legs, throw on the run in both directions. He’s got to be a nightmare to game plan against. Some guys don’t have to always be “technically sound” all the time because they have special abilities. At this level he has to learn the difference of when to create and when to set properly and fire. He does need help with his footwork and pocket adjustments. Sometimes you can reinvent the pocket several times with subtle movements...but that goes back to having a pocket develop in the first place, which was rare this year.
I don’t question his work ethic so I don’t have any reason to believe he won’t work hard to improve. If he improves throwing from the pocket, I see no reason he can’t be a high draft pick. I would say his ceiling is higher than players like Trask or Mond who will likely get an NFL chance. Harsin is a good coach. He’s also a new voice that doesn’t give a shite about Bo’s lineage. I have no reason to think Bo won’t be up to the challenge and if he is, Corch may very well be right in his assessment.
We also have ignored that there was no offseason. Repetition is how players get better. Hopefully we have learned to adjust enough to have more offseason work together this year. I’m thankful we had a season at all.
(Which is what Gus was trying to convey with his 6 win comment. It just came out wrong.)
Happy New Year!
I don’t question his work ethic so I don’t have any reason to believe he won’t work hard to improve. If he improves throwing from the pocket, I see no reason he can’t be a high draft pick. I would say his ceiling is higher than players like Trask or Mond who will likely get an NFL chance. Harsin is a good coach. He’s also a new voice that doesn’t give a shite about Bo’s lineage. I have no reason to think Bo won’t be up to the challenge and if he is, Corch may very well be right in his assessment.
We also have ignored that there was no offseason. Repetition is how players get better. Hopefully we have learned to adjust enough to have more offseason work together this year. I’m thankful we had a season at all.
(Which is what Gus was trying to convey with his 6 win comment. It just came out wrong.)
Happy New Year!
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:28 pm to CorchJay
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I'm not sure why people ask for opinions and then disagree with the opinions given. State you opinion and leave it at that.
I'm asking you to bring actual examples of proof - all you do is state conjecture about him having "elite arm talent" which somehow hasn't materialized into anything of note on the field. You either have no idea what "elite arm talent" actually is, or you're just talking out of your arse. The fact that you think he has "NFL size" kinda suggests that you don't even follow the NFL that closely, because as stated, his size would actually be on the low-end of the NFL spectrum.
Elite arm talent should show up in SOME elite throws. Based off of the ball leaving his hand and traveling through the air; Bo Nix's arm talent looks no different than any other QB we have seen line up against us this year. His piss-poor stats in basically every passing category back up the fact that he really isn't that special at all in terms of throwing the football. When we FIRST started talking about this at the beginning of the season, I brought up the example of Josh Allen who played for a nothing school in college and was super erratic and needed a ton of work. Despite all of that, in every game you would see a handful of passes come out of his arm that literally only a handful of NFL quarterbacks could make. Even throwing off the back foot; Allen would complete absurdly difficult passes. Note how when Bo Nix's mechanics break down, the pass is 99% of the time absolutely horrible and uncatchable. This is because he DOESN'T possess the "arm talent" to mask his poor mechanics. Patrick Mahomes is another example of a guy who was an erratic "gunslinger" at Texas Tech whose arm could produce elite throws regardless of whether his feet are even set. Those are two of the most elite quarterbacks currently in the NFL, but the point is that THAT is "elite arm talent". Bo Nix does not have fricking elite arm talent. It is an absolute joke to even suggest that. Arm talent also includes traits like touch, timing, and ball placement which are all easy negatives for Nix as even on routine throws he consistently throws poorly-placed passes (low, high, behind the receiver).
The fact that even after this second season of below-average performance you're still talking about "1st round pick" shows that you have no idea what the NFL even looks for in a QB. Inaccurate with average arm strength - you think that's what NFL teams are looking for in a 1st round QB pick? Nobody cares if he can run or scramble around when he can't even consistently hit an open receiver. Hell he can't even consistently throw the ball where it needs to be on a screen pass, and you think he's going in the 1st round? The guys who show inaccuracy in college and still go in the 1st round have rocket arms, are massive or freakishly athletic, or both.
Bo Nix is literally dime-a-dozen by every single NFL standard.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:33 pm to CorchJay
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Prior to this season. Jordan palmer's reply
Will Bo Nix get drafted?
Although it's premature, we already have a prediction for the 2022 NFL Draft. Jordan Palmer, a former NFL quarterback and current guru for the position, believes Bo Nix will be the first player taken in 2022. ... If Nix continues to develop over the next two years at Auburn, he should be an elite prospect.
Key notes there: before this season, and "if he continues to develop".
Bo Nix went backwards or stagnated in virtually every aspect this season. Ask Jordan Palmer that same question today and I'd bet you any amount of money that there's no way in hell he's predicting him to be the first pick in ANY draft.
Here's Matt Miller (a prominent NFL Draft analyst) from literally a month ago on Nix:
LINK
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Matt Miller
@nfldraftscout
I’ve never understood the Bo Nix hype
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:38 pm to metafour
I guess we will see.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:39 pm to Rig
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I don’t see where any comment was deleted in my side.
Hmmm....well, it was there, had upvotes and then it was gone.
You can still suck it, even if you're completely innocent and I am lying.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:45 pm to TTsTowel
No has had zero real coaching since he arrived on campus. Didn’t I read at one that Gustavus Moronicus wouldn’t even allow his qb’s to attend any off campus training camps?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:51 pm to metafour
Guess we will see how it turns out then. Weird you find one but still the mock drafts have him late first or early second. After these horrible 2 years where one of them he won SEC freshman of the year as a true freshman. 36th overall which is a kind of average for his “mock” status would make him what the 4th pick in the second round. Guess all those expects see nothing in him. The NFL loves throwing money away. Plus I see no reason he couldn’t move up 5 spots. There is a reason why every “prediction” likes him. There is a reason all the broadcasters drool all over him. Raw talent.
Not worth the argument to me. It’ll play out and we will see who was right and who was wrong.
Obviously any serious injury throws everything off barring that I still say 1st round pick. Probably in the top 3 of his class in QB.
I also said Flash would go in the 2nd round. Bold. The way he’s handled the social media aspect unless he gets a combine invite he might fall a hair. I’m still sticking with 2nd round but I see more downward movement for him and upward movement for Bo. Wouldn’t surprise me if Schwartz fell to mid 3rd. Still much higher then most predict on here of 5th or 6th round to UDFA.
Not worth the argument to me. It’ll play out and we will see who was right and who was wrong.
Obviously any serious injury throws everything off barring that I still say 1st round pick. Probably in the top 3 of his class in QB.
I also said Flash would go in the 2nd round. Bold. The way he’s handled the social media aspect unless he gets a combine invite he might fall a hair. I’m still sticking with 2nd round but I see more downward movement for him and upward movement for Bo. Wouldn’t surprise me if Schwartz fell to mid 3rd. Still much higher then most predict on here of 5th or 6th round to UDFA.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:58 pm to CorchJay
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Also right now, after 2020 season. Bo is rated number 36 overall and predicted a 2nd round pick. With a percentage of 25% of being a first round pick.
Wait, please tell me that the reference for this statement isn't this no-name website I've never seen in my life:
LINK
???
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:03 pm to slacker130
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quote: I don’t see where any comment was deleted in my side. Hmmm....well, it was there, had upvotes and then it was gone. You can still suck it, even if you're completely innocent and I am lying.
Where’d you put my beer?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:26 pm to robbykidd
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Where’d you put my beer?
Metafour drank it ....sorry ...LOL
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:40 pm to robbykidd
I can’t think of an NFL throw I’ve seen from him. Doesn’t mean there hasn’t been one, but nothing stands out about him. I can think of plenty of throws he has missed, that NFL guys make 6 or 7 times out of 10.
Aaron Murray was a much better QB than him. He was drafted in the 5th round.
Aaron Murray was a much better QB than him. He was drafted in the 5th round.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:17 pm to bluedragon
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Metafour drank it ....sorry ...LOL
... must of been still chilled.
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