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re: Auburn professor doesn’t know if he can say the War in “War Eagle”

Posted on 5/14/20 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
891 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 5:17 pm to
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He has probably received more attention than any new faculty member in a long, long time.


I think that's probably right. The answer to this dude is to ignore him to the extent possible. If students are forced to take his class as part of a core curriculum, then the students should complain if that's what they want to do. And for God's sake, ignore whatever silly social media bullshite he posts.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10943 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 5:30 pm to
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I don’t remotely care about his sexual orientation and of course nobody should be railing against the guy for that.
The larger issue is his defending his outright ignorance about the institution he works for. Everyone says something a bit off or makes a wrong step. It's simple human nature to error. However his subsequent remarks (the later tweet in particular) shows an extreme lack of professionalism and that's a bad look for those programs under his control and guidance.


eta: For instance how many of your favorite athletes signed with the University of Auburn?
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 5:36 pm
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11100 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 6:07 pm to
What a tool
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36537 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 6:08 pm to
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I don’t remotely care about his sexual orientation and of course nobody should be railing against the guy for that.

I know that. I was referring to the “platform to where he can easily claim persecution” aspect. He has been railed by some on Twitter and that’s probably what he wanted. Of course he was probably not railed any harder than what his bf does to him, but I digress.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:30 pm to
This guy's "abolish prisons" stance is confusing... He should give prison a try. It is pretty much heaven for skinny, white homos that love black people. He would probably have a pretty good time. Might change his opinion.
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:04 pm to
catch these hands fam

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19238 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:09 pm to
I wish the school could fill up everyone of his classrooms with KA's, football, and basketball players.
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
2993 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:47 pm to
This world is becoming a joke.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:15 pm to
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wish the school could fill up everyone of his classrooms with KA's, football, and basketball players.


This is oddly specific
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:21 pm to
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People like this are why tuition is through the roof.


We are paying Steven Leath $1.5 mil a year to not be our school president.

I don't think the PHD only making $50-60k is why Auburn can't keep costs down.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7921 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:31 pm to
Auburn KA’s are notoriously racist
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:38 pm to
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This guy's "abolish prisons" stance is confusing


What exactly is his stance?
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:47 pm to
From Goldberg's Cornell faculty bio...

quote:

He is currently revising his dissertation into his first book, Abolition Time: Slavery’s Afterlife and the Excessive Present in Law, Literature, and Performance. The project argues that a temporality of an “excessive present” which collapses past, present, and future into the moment of the now enacts possibilities for thinking and practicing a politics of abolition that reaches towards both abstract concepts of freedom and concrete visions such as the end of prisons.


He has built a career on nonsensical, unrealistic expectations for treatment of the black race. He equates prison to slavery, makes excuses... Bla bla bla.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:49 pm to
I think the justice/prison system is in need of some very serious reform. That said, this guy seems a bit out there
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:07 pm to
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I think the justice/prison system is in need of some very serious reform.


Clearly. The justice system needs to adjust with the times. That hasn't always been the case. Habitual offender laws/sentences are tricky and get a lot of flack.

Nobody should do life in prison for marijuana possession. But if that same individual has 8-9 other felonies over his "career" then yes, at a certain point, he just needs to be locked up forever.

Being soft on crime creates lawlessness amongst law abiding citizens. If there is no real punishment for Andre or Alan breaking in my house then he might come break in again next week. Then I have to kill him and enter the criminal justice system myself.

There is no magic pill to fix the criminal justice system. Jail/prison doesn't really deter thugs because they get to hang out with other thugs all day. You can get phones, drugs, etc. in prison. So they get basically all they need with exception to women, but I have witnessed... Lock em up together long enough and they just start having sex with each other.

The old way of chopping off a hand for theft, execution for murder, etc. is probably your best answer to deter crime. Unfortunately, in 2020 being sentenced to prison for a crime is the same as being enslaved against your will and forced to do hard labor.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22678 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:45 pm to
Who said anything about Auburn only? Tuition is sky high all over the country and professors are getting paid gobs of money all over the country to teach bullshite.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:54 am to
The bubble behind “universities” is going to pop eventually. Incurring extra debt to take useless classes that offer no value to the student in terms of finding a job and no value to the world in terms of what skill sets the class imparts upon those taking it doesn’t make a lot of financial sense. I know I would have been just fine taking my in major classes and the relevant prerequisites. Shaved at least a year off my schooling and wasted less of my time.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 10:00 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:25 am to
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take useless classes that offer no value to the student in terms of finding a job and no value to the world in terms of what skill sets the class imparts upon those taking it


You should read the book Range. Provides a different perspective on how undervalued being well rounded with diverse skills/knowledge is.

For example, people credit Steve Jobs taking calligraphy classes as a huge part of the GUI asthetics he pushed for Apple

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Incurring extra debt to


I agree that this part is absurd
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:30 am to
I’ll admit in my zeal I used the word “no” where I should have placed “relatively little”. If one ascribes a benefit to being well rounded, and I’ll admit that that there is one, with the current situation we find ourselves in regarding student debt, the cost-benefit analysis would still point towards finding a different avenue than a formal education for the more general studies. It’s just becoming, in my opinion, way too costly from a time and money perspective to engage in those pursuits during your college education. I think on that point we may find some degree of common ground.

But I’m the kind of guy that would have rather read up on Kantian ethics on my own outside of class than using a three hour time slot being forced to take Intro to Ethics.

My reading list has unfortunately gotten quite a bit longer than I wanted it to ever get, but I’ll see if I can work Range in at some point.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6497 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 12:58 pm to
I had an English Instructor in ENG102. First day ..."All athletes raise your hands" ...4 or 5, "Get out, I don't teach athletes." "All ROTC raise your hands." 5-6 "Get out, I don't teach baby killers."

I'm thinking wait until you get a load of me. "Each person will now stand, introduce yourself, tell where you came from and what you plan to do here at Auburn."

I stood up. "Military Brat graduated in Tokyo."
"Oh, your father is a Baby Killer. Was he in Viet Nam?" "Yes he was, with the CIA." "Oh, a baby killer and assassin." I never got to finish.

Long story short. She was "NFL" (Not for long) at Auburn. Ran her out of there fast. I think the athletic Department and ROTC had a lot to say about her. My input gained some traction as well. Got to know the Dean of the English Department real well.
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