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re: Auburn professor doesn’t know if he can say the War in “War Eagle”

Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:38 am to
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51816 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:38 am to
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He is currently revising his dissertation into his first book, Abolition Time: Slavery’s Afterlife and the Excessive Present in Law, Literature, and Performance. The project argues that a temporality of an “excessive present” which collapses past, present, and future into the moment of the now enacts possibilities for thinking and practicing a politics of abolition that reaches towards both abstract concepts of freedom and concrete visions such as the end of prisons.


Word salad.
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
Prattville Al
Member since May 2020
1738 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 1:24 pm to
Every professor I had at Auburn held conservative political beliefs. I know because I would engage them as I was vice-president of Auburn College Republicans. But, my degree was in Agriculture, not Liberal Arts.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:17 pm to
That’s a lot of words to say nothing
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Every professor I had at Auburn held conservative political beliefs. I know because I would engage them as I was vice-president of Auburn College Republicans. But, my degree was in Agriculture, not Liberal Arts.



I have a feeling its not 100 conservative anymore. It has been 40 years since I went to AU, and maybe those that have recently graduated can give a more current analysis.

I still think AU is majority conservative, but liberal teachers much have increased here over the years. Super liberal colleges definitely and unfortunately have taken over much of the college campus faculty I feel.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7883 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:23 pm to
I graduated in the 2000's, I'd say most of my liberal arts professors were pretty clearly liberal and most of business school professors were centrists with maybe a few leaning conservative. I think that is probably the standard at most southern universities.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61576 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:57 am to
My brother in law is taking classes at UNG here in north Georgia. He is 40 and working on a teaching degree. He has told me some stories about some of the professors there that will make your skin crawl. Things they say to the students about politics. Unreal..

That was not as much of a thing back in the olden days.
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:21 pm to
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”Abolish Whiteness." Second, can someone tell me what this even means?


It means end white privilege.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40856 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:52 pm to
Was his twitter account private before these tweets or something that he’s done because of them?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105387 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:00 am to
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quote:
He is currently revising his dissertation into his first book, Abolition Time: Slavery’s Afterlife and the Excessive Present in Law, Literature, and Performance. The project argues that a temporality of an “excessive present” which collapses past, present, and future into the moment of the now enacts possibilities for thinking and practicing a politics of abolition that reaches towards both abstract concepts of freedom and concrete visions such as the end of prisons.


Reading that alone should disqualify him from teaching at Auburn. It also should get the person who hired him fired.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61576 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:38 am to
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white privilege.


One of my favorite terms of the new times.


Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:07 am to
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quote:
He is currently revising his dissertation into his first book, Abolition Time: Slavery’s Afterlife and the Excessive Present in Law, Literature, and Performance. The project argues that a temporality of an “excessive present” which collapses past, present, and future into the moment of the now enacts possibilities for thinking and practicing a politics of abolition that reaches towards both abstract concepts of freedom and concrete visions such as the end of prisons.



I think that's the longest sentence I have ever seen, that made no sense...
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
Prattville Al
Member since May 2020
1738 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:05 pm to
No, he made it private after the media hoopla. Al.com did a write-up on this guy. That's how it became so known.
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
891 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:41 am to
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It means end white privilege.


Thanks for the response pubecrab.

I'm white, and I'm probably privileged to an extent. But it's because my grandfather worked his arse off after WW2. My dad and me tried pretty hard too. I don't think it's because we're white. But maybe it didn't hurt. I don't know.

ETA mom worked hard too. She'd be pissed if she saw I didn't mention her.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:33 am to
Yeah, I had no idea and googled it. I’m white, I’ve worked and lived in numerous states as an HR professional and an alternative school system administrator, servicing a school population mostly made of black and Hispanic students.

Racism is still a huge problem in this country and white privilege still exists. NFL is currently having to revisit the Rooney rule. I’ve had to investigate and terminate many people over the years for racist nonsense in the workplace or from social media posts.

This guy is a nut and shouldn’t be instructing at our college, but part of what he supports is that all people should be treated equitably, regardless of race, gender, etc... which I certainly support. You’re also a complete idiot if you can’t say WDE.


Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:17 am to
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Racism is still a huge problem in this country and white privilege


All the white people on this board right now



This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 11:25 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36276 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:23 am to
I’ll start it off:

I was brought up by a single mom of 3 and GI Bill privilege.
Posted by wartiger2004
Proud LGB Supporter!
Member since Aug 2011
17815 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:26 am to
I was brought up as you don't work you don't eat privilege.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36276 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:28 am to
You sound entitled af.

(obvious sarcasm)
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 11:30 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:43 am to
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I’ll start it off:


Like clockwork, the classic "my life / my great-great grandpappy's life was hard too" responses. Trust me, I get why people have that response. I would just try to suggest to not think about it as belittling your achievements and more about the unecessary obstacles from others.

There are a lot of arbitrary and stupid obstacles minorities face when trying to get ahead. Are they the sole reason some people struggle? Absolutely not. It just is stupid that they exist and we should work to remove them.

A couple quick examples just about names

1) My good friend has to have his white girlfriend make apartment inquiries. Many landlords prefer not to rent to people whose name is hispanic. Friend doesn't even speak Spanish
2) We were hiring a position awhile back and let's just say that your birth name was an unspoken filter for most people. Something a person doesn't get the choose eliminating them from a job


Situations like these, which I imagine everyone agrees are stupid and shouldn't happen, unfortunately are common place. It is hard enough for people to get ahead, we don't need to add more to anyone's plate.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 11:48 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Like clockwork, the classic "my life / my great-great grandpappy's life was hard too" responses. Trust me, I get why people have that response. I would just try to suggest to not think about it as belittling your achievements and more about the unecessary obstacles from others.


To be clear, I agree with most of your post, but I do have problems with how these privilege conversations are usually carried out and this type of statement is a big reason why.

If the context is "being in a majority in a community carries with it an implicit advantage because people gravitate to things and ideas that are familiar to them", having a similar socioeconomic background as your community would certainly be a relevant factor in the multi-variable problem of how the society around you prejudges you. I'm not sure how you differentiate between which factor creates the relevant majority vs. minority dichotomy when there are so many factors that comprise the background of an individual. Be it how they dress, their accent, their sexual orientation, their religion, their tattoos, their race, their gender, their marital status, etc.

Clearly we should strive to remove these prejudices from our world, but I find these privilege conversations are single-variable in nature, which is such a simplified model of how we perceive each other that I'm not sure how valuable it really is. It doesn't help that the underlying phrase "privilege" and how it is thrown around is definitely accusatory in nature in many instances and gets people on the defensive immediately.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:25 pm
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