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re: Auburn professor doesn’t know if he can say the War in “War Eagle”

Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26680 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:14 pm to
I’m just waiting on Jones to come in here and acknowledge his Asian privilege
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36238 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:17 pm to
Is GenesChin mansplaining again?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33292 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:20 pm to
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I’m just waiting on Jones to come in here and acknowledge his Asian privilege

Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Like clockwork, the classic "my life / my great-great grandpappy's life was hard too" responses. Trust me, I get why people have that response. I would just try to suggest to not think about it as belittling your achievements and more about the unecessary obstacles from others.

A couple quick examples just about names

1) My good friend has to have his white girlfriend make apartment inquiries. Many landlords prefer not to rent to people whose name is hispanic. Friend doesn't even speak Spanish
2) We were hiring a position awhile back and let's just say that your birth name was an unspoken filter for most people. Something a person doesn't get the choose eliminating them from a job


And like clockwork, you come back with subjective garble that has no objective basis or quantifiable measure of proof.

1) Oh really? What is "many landlords"? 1? 3? 5? 500? How many times has your friend inquired on apartments? How can you prove that your friend's name had ANYTHING to do with his supposed rejection? Even if it did happen and it WAS the case - congrats - you found a racist person. Now what? Racism is an unfortunate human truth that is replicated everywhere on this planet. You are never going to "eliminate racism" - its as silly as saying that we need to eliminate all murder. You said that so matter-of-factly that I'm now confused as to how ANYONE with a foreign-sounding name gets an apartment. Do they all get their white friends and/or girlfriends to inquire for them?

2) This is the most vaguely BS statement I have seen in weeks. If there was an "unspoken filter", how exactly did you come to this matter-of-fact conclusion? You just deduced it out of thin air? I already know what you are going to say: there were equal candidates, and everyone wanted to hire the guy named "John". No, there is absolutely no such thing as an "equal candidate" - how can something as complex as two human beings be absolutely "equal"? It is impossible, yet this is a statement that is thrown around by equity-types as a factual argument. Furthermore, you absolutely CAN legally change your birth name. Even with the legitimate cases of some racist hiring manager sifting through resumes based off of the names of the candidates, are these cases not evened out by widespread affirmative action hiring that has entered virtually every workplace?
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 2:15 pm to
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And like clockwork, you come back with subjective garble that has no objective basis or quantifiable measure of proof.


Careful man. I chose these specific anecdotes because they are real examples of researched and studied topics with quantifiable measures to support the conclusion

GA Tech research on common minority names for identical applications affecting success rates


And

HUD report on racial inequality in housing/rental searches


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Racism is an unfortunate human truth that is replicated everywhere on this planet. You are never going to "eliminate racism" - its as silly as saying that we need to eliminate all murder.


I do not disagree with any point you made. Whether it is murder or racism though, I see no reason we shouldn't give our best effort to consciously identify and try to reduce these flaws.


I mean, we have already made progress and had success on this front. Not sure why we should just stop instead of doubling down on success
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 11:55 pm to
While we’re talking crazy professors at AU, Auburn is really paying this guy.

LINK

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Did not know this. Lenox Mall is complicit as well. They should divest and stop harboring the police. The image of armed officers protecting a luxury mall is yet another embodiment of racialized state violence protecting private property. #AtlantaProtest



Posts this bullshite as looters are trying to break into Lenox Mall.


LINK
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 1:04 am to
He looks like he could be Shaun King's brother. Lol.

Higher Ed is a key component in the liberal propaganda machine. Auburn isn't exempt from that sad truth...
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12740 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:38 am to
I know we were joking about froot-loop and saying he didn't need to be at AU, but looking at this guy's Twitter feed from last night makes me wonder should there be a complaint lodged against him.

When he found out Lenox Mall was owned by the Simon Corp...
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Publicly traded company with a 17 BILLION dollar market cap.

That's a lot of stolen land and labor. Protestors FEEL this injustice and KNOW that their feelings of rage and anger are a valid way of knowing.


Basically saying it is ok to vandalize/loot a mall because it is owned by a large company? Conservative folks have been doxxed/targeted/fired for saying much less on social media.
Posted by scleeb
Member since Nov 2014
180 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 10:06 am to
I believe this professor is exactly who most believe he is. I believe his method is counterproductive. He is attempting to provoke thought but, he is doing more to provoke anger. He is challenging ideas that are very long held by people very invested in them.

Still, this does not mean he is totally wrong or, totally correct.

Ultimately, I think the real debate lies in a "might makes right world" versus a "right makes might" world. Can economic might be as violent as pure brute force?

Ultimately, democracy, freedom, capitalism can only thrive in one environment.

If you believe the answers are simple, you are at best naive, at worst a useful idiot. If you believe skin color has anything to do with statistics, you are a racist.

Society is led from the top, not the bottom. Blaming the powerless is simply the cover some of the powerful have contrived in order to manipulate those too lazy, or unable, to think.

This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36238 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 10:31 am to
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Gene, have you gotten in on any of the rioting or looting this week?

Gene, you there? I am needing a 65 inch smart tv if you’re headed out today.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Gene, you there? I am needing a 65 inch smart tv if you’re headed out today.


If he was in Atlanta last night, he could have scored some awesome CFB memorabilia.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 2:52 pm to
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know we were joking about froot-loop and saying he didn't need to be at AU


I wasn’t joking. This dude is trouble with a capital T
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 6:16 pm to
Mods deleted my post asking if Gene was partaking in the rioting/looting.

I feel it was a legitimate question considering he was railing against racial inequality just a few posts earlier in this thread.

Isn't racial inequality and police brutality against people of color what these protests/riots are about? Why delete my post? It wasn't a personal attack, just curious how committed Gene is to the cause.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30084 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 6:30 pm to
Tell gene to get me something nice tonight
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28897 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 7:12 pm to
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Mods deleted my post asking if Gene was partaking in the rioting/looting.

Yes, they did.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:01 pm to
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Tell gene to get me something nice tonight


Gene is clearly a participant in these riots and Ross, Rig, and co. are covering for him.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10923 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 9:11 pm to
Might as well porn bomb on the way out


. . . and get it done the fast way.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:47 am to
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Gene is clearly a participant in these riots and Ross, Rig, and co. are covering for him.


I might not agree with Gene on some of his opinions but for Gods sake dude take a hint and show some civility. He has been cordial in this thread, you could respond in kind.

For what it’s worth, I’d highly recommend you let this conversation end here.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 12:53 am
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33292 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:01 am to
What about my financial advice?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:03 am to
Well I can still see hidden posts so I now have the inside track to making a fortune. Rig can thank me later

For what it’s worth that back and forth was one of the few chuckles I’ve had all day
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