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Where in Florida?

1) the road cycling scene is pretty good with good infrastructure in South Florida at least. Lots and lots of roadies in Palm Beach and Miami. That being said… road ain’t for me in this day and age with distracted drivers.

2) depending where you are, the Florida mountain bike trails are surprisingly fun despite very little elevation to work with. Virginia Key near Miami is great. Alafia near Tampa is solid. Markham and Jonathan Dickerson (which might be closed now…) and some others near Palm Beach are good. Santos by Ocala is fantastic.

I read Carol's character development over this episode as quite a bit more profound, personally. She's been misanthropic since before the "event." She would seem to enjoy being the Steppenwolfe (thanks Hesse). Now, though, when confronted with the reality of that isolation, we find that she does have a need for connection, even if it's to the hive mind humans (of course.. she also may be playing them).

But I think the firework pointed at her face was the inflection point for her. She appears to be ready to end it all. She's reach the depths of her isolation and appears to be fine with just going away. Instead, the firework misses her and the next day she reaches out to the hive mind and requests their return.

The Carol part of the episode made sense to me. I'm not sure how I feel about the Manousos part yet, other than it emphasizes exactly how doggedly devoted he is to his principles. Anytime he takes gas, he leaves money. When he broke into storage units for dog food, he left notes for the owners. He refuses help from the "aliens" even when it causes him extreme discomfort or puts his own life in peril. Unless I missed something, he didn't actually ask them to help him with the helicopter in the end. They were just observing him without his knowledge, saw him on the verge of death, and are rescuing him against his will? That's going to be interesting to see play out.

BTW: did anyone else think Carol was going to the hardware store to get materials to fix the damage to the house she caught on fire at first?

My strategy for viewing is to let an episode air, wait a few days and read all the negative reactions here, share those negative reactions with my wife, eventually get around to watching the new episode on Monday or Tuesday night, then be pleasantly surprised and enjoy the episode thanks to the level setting of this forum. :lol:

Still liking it. Nothing mind blowing or anything, but it's enjoyable.

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Dinner has been a thing in every episode and y’all complain like it’s some new revelation.

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I could have sworn that in an earlier episode they acted like she was an awful cook and dinner's always a disaster. Then this episode was more like, "She's a gourmet cook and amazing party planner." Maybe it wasn't saying she's a bad cook in earlier episodes... just that she was cooking stuff too fancy for the oil dudes holed up in the house... but I swear I remember them acting like her food was inedible.

Anyway... the whole pirate party shite seemed so out of place to me. Imean, I guess it's a feel good moment and such, but it just seemed out of theme from the rest of the show.

I've seen more and more of this behavior lately, and I just don't get it. I was raised on a lake. My inlaws live on a lake now. It's so normal for people to fish your dock/wall/riprap whatever on your lake front. Why the hell wouldn't they? I just don't understand where this weird misconception comes from that you have the right to tell people to get away from your dock.

Also: I don't get why it irritates dock owners so badly? Are they gatekeeping their honey hole or do they just not like seeing people in boats? It's so weird. If I'm on the dock at my inlaws messing around and a fishing boat trolls by, I'll always ask them something like "hows the fishing today?" Just bizarre that people have gotten so hostile toward others. And no.. it's not about race, even though this video was... I've seen plenty of videos with white folks doing the same shite (albeit, not pulling a gun).

One of the things that I think VG is trying to develop as a theme is the irony of Carol's isolation. In life, she really had no one that she cared about other than her partner/manager. She shows disdain for her fans and her own work as an author. Once her partner dies, then Carol no longer has any ties to the human race. Ironically, she's the one fighting for humanity and its individuality despite her isolation. Simultaneously, most of the other 13 have loved ones who are still alive but assimilated into the hive mind. They're still connected to the body of those people, but they don't really care about the whole of humanity due to their ties to those individual's bodies.

Don’t want to be a Debbie downer for anyone mod-read…but I’m struggling with the back half of Shadows Upon Time. Kind of speed reading it right now to get to the end. A little too metaphysical and up and down for my tastes.

It's so weird how so many people experience the same thing with the first few episodes.

I also remember a failed attempt to start this series before I finally committed to it. I think it was the Miller storyline I didn't like... it just seemed like such a ham-fisted detective noir spoof or something. At the time it seemed borderline cheesy. Now I kind of think it's a brilliant homage.

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But then why the amber color when it’s mixed with water?

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Feed my dog bone broth from turkeys. It's an amber powder that you then dissolve in liquid and pour over their food. I would assume it's because bone marrow isn't white.

Here is a picture of what bone broth powder looks like:

62,813 minutes
Listenign age: 20 (I'm 52 :lol: )
321 Genres
5, 273 songs

Top Genres:
1) Alternative Country
2) Indie Rock
3) Alternative Hip HOp
4) Country
5) Jam Band

Top songs:
1) Heaven Passing Through: Turnpike
2) Pay No Rent: Turnpike
3) The Fences of Stonehendge: Wild Pink
4) Crowbar: Waxahatchee
5) On the Red River: Turnpike

Top Artists:
1. Waxahatchee
2. Turnpike Troubadours
3. Tyler Childers
4. My Morning Jacket
5. Grateful Dead

Top Albums:
1) Price of Admission: Turnkpike
2) Alfredo 2: Freddie Gibbs, the Alchemist
3) The Scholars: Car Seat Headrest
4) Twlight Override: Jeff Tweedy
5) Manning Fireworks: MJ Lenderman

I like them... but they're really trying to hone in on the "druggie country band" niche. Like... I get it. You're white trash and do drugs and frick women who are also white trash and do drugs.

It might have just been because we were in the car when we listened first... but the mixing on this album sounded like absolute shite to me as well.

That being said, I do like them despite all I just wrote.

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