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Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:55 pm to troyt37
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:55 pm to troyt37
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So, making Iowa State competitive for 4th or 5th in the Texass 12, in his 4th year, makes posters idiots for questioning whether he is the home run, 5-6-7 million dollar man to bring the Razorbacks back to respectability. If he is the guy, I hope that is exactly what he does, but damn we are talking about getting into a pretty damn ritzy neighborhood in pay. Forgive me for thinking that much money should buy some outstanding qualities. I’d be right with you if the guy had played for or won the B12.
I'm not saying Campbell will have us in the playoffs or anything but he did take a less talented Iowa st team that was 6-7, 3-9, 2-10, 3-9 the 4 years previous and got them back to winning 7-8 wins consistently again in just 2-3 years, won Big 12 coach of the year twice and had them occasionally ranked.
He also showed winning 9 and 10 games at Toledo that he can outpunch his weight and win games he's not supposed to, which is something Bert and Morris could never claim before we hired them.
He won't walk on water, but we could do a lot worse
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Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:55 pm to Razorback Reverend
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But... but... Yes Kiff was fired by USC, his dream school...But to be fair, weren't they on Scholly limits, and bowl bans, and etc. I believe so. Which does give pause as to assigning blame.
As for leaving Tenner, again it was his dream job period.
After going to Bama their program changed for the better from his offensive mind and schemes. Even with his friend running the O there now. He wasn't fired at Bama. He had already taken the FAU job and was recruiting already while trying to handle the duties for the NC at Bama. Saban told him to go on... Do you remember the outcome of that NC game? Hmmm
Is he a bit childish still? probably, will he cause a few PR headaches, Possibly. Is he better than anyone we have had since Petrino. Most definitely.
My grandmothers didn't defend me as much as some of you people do Kiffin.
Got fired at Oakland for being a pathological liar? Not his fault, Al Davis is crazy.
Left Tennessee in a lurch and negative recruited against them before leaving and on his way out? Don't blame him, USC was his dream job.
Got fired at USC for falling apart in the 2012 and 2013 seasons, in which he coached a team that went from preseason #1 to unranked (first team to do that since 1964) and lost his team so badly that they were fighting each other in the locker room at the Sun Bowl? Not his fault, fallout from the Carroll sanctions.
Got fired from Bama a week before the NC game because he basically checked out and didn't game plan? Nah, not his fault, Saban was too much of a stickler about focus (despite the fact that Kirby Smart had no trouble with that at all the postseason prior).
Acts like a shithead on Twitter? Who cares, it's fun and interesting, and isn't it great how he trolls Saban (oh wait we already did the social media theatrics bullshite with Bert and we got our arse beaten).
Y'all need to stop treating Kiffin like a grandchild and apologizing for every career bed shitting he's ever had. He's like your screwed up grandson you still believe can do no wrong — not his fault he keeps getting arrested, it's those damn cops always out to get him.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:59 pm to Porky
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Lane Kiffin has not beat any team ranked higher than #73 since he has been at FAU.
This is not a fair assessment. It's rare that he gets to face higher quality opponents.
He did just as well at Ohio State as Michigan did today at home.
Iowa State is also gets better athletes than FAU simply by virtue of being in a better conference.
Lane also took his team to Western Kentucky and beat them.
I suspect if you dropped Lane off at Iowa State he would have similar if not better results.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:03 pm to Ham Solo
FIU beat Miami this year.
He faced higher quality opponents twice a year, this games pay to keep FAU in operation, he was blown out while playing the role of the rentawin.
WKU isn't a barometer
He faced higher quality opponents twice a year, this games pay to keep FAU in operation, he was blown out while playing the role of the rentawin.
WKU isn't a barometer
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:05 pm to Feral
I believe all of that about Kiffin, but I also believe he is a very good coach, who recruits at a very high level, who has connections like few other coaches, and is very innovative on offense.
He could burn it all down, or have success like we haven’t seen since Petrino. I just fail to see how I’m an idiot for not seeing Kiffin as comparable to Campbell, in that his highest praise is that he has made Iowa State not arse, in the B12. Are we really looking at paying a guy 6 million plus, for what could very possibly be 7-5 seasons?
He could burn it all down, or have success like we haven’t seen since Petrino. I just fail to see how I’m an idiot for not seeing Kiffin as comparable to Campbell, in that his highest praise is that he has made Iowa State not arse, in the B12. Are we really looking at paying a guy 6 million plus, for what could very possibly be 7-5 seasons?
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:06 pm to RazorBroncs
Sauce on girl on goybook?
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:08 pm to Feral
Feral...
You sound a bit perplexed and pissed off. I gave my impression and thoughts. I did not make excuses but gave, from what I have read and discussed with those in college football including an ESPN employee Kiffin and his antics.
The majority of them stand up for LK and what he would/could accomplish.
Why do you hate his being here so much, without going psycho on us all?
You sound a bit perplexed and pissed off. I gave my impression and thoughts. I did not make excuses but gave, from what I have read and discussed with those in college football including an ESPN employee Kiffin and his antics.
The majority of them stand up for LK and what he would/could accomplish.
Why do you hate his being here so much, without going psycho on us all?
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:09 pm to troyt37
We would all love a sure fire hire, but I don't see any of those available anywhere. The closest to those out there today aren't going anywhere. Some would say Urban Myer, but I don't see it. BeyoNd that MAYBE Rule, but he's not going anywhere. Norvell has the same weak conference bias. And frankly, what conference over the last five years have been as good as SECW. Not even SECE has been close. So where the hell is a coach that has built a team to a champion in a conference equal SECW. Simple, THERE ISN'T ONE!
With that said, the amount of money being talked about for "promising" coaches is concerning. But Arkansas is at a point where really, they have to throw money at the problem. Really that is your best option right now, and what the market dictates be it Cambell, Kiffin, of whoever else. It's a high gamble ko matter who it is. And for those that say Leach, well he's 6-6 in a very weak conference as well.
With that said, the amount of money being talked about for "promising" coaches is concerning. But Arkansas is at a point where really, they have to throw money at the problem. Really that is your best option right now, and what the market dictates be it Cambell, Kiffin, of whoever else. It's a high gamble ko matter who it is. And for those that say Leach, well he's 6-6 in a very weak conference as well.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:12 pm to troyt37
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his highest praise is that he has made Iowa State not arse, in the B12. Are we really looking at paying a guy 6 million plus, for what could very possibly be 7-5 seasons?
At this point I feel like y'all are intentionally ignoring the arguments made in support of Campbell
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:12 pm to DaleDenton
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You probably remember where the game as played as well.
Called a home game 4 years ago in Fayetteville instead of Little Rock. The horror. Good job nit-picking a useless fact. Here's your e-cookie, Dale.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:13 pm to Porcine Human
People have been discussing Leach non stop when he was never a candidate so...
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:15 pm to troyt37
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He could burn it all down, or have success like we haven’t seen since Petrino. I just fail to see how I’m an idiot for not seeing Kiffin as comparable to Campbell, in that his highest praise is that he has made Iowa State not arse, in the B12. Are we really looking at paying a guy 6 million plus, for what could very possibly be 7-5 seasons?
This right here.
Heaven forbid, anyone have any real concerns against someone's favorite pick. My guy is Kiffin, but I acknowledge the concerns with him.
My concerns with Campbell is that we will handle our cupcakes, beat the Mississippi schools, maybe Vandy or Kentucky, then we go to the weed eater bowl.
My point is this guy hasn't done enough to be given the $$$ amounts being thrown around. These amounts are message board rumors, so maybe it's nonsense.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:15 pm to Feral
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Acts like a shithead on Twitter? Who cares, it's fun and interesting, and isn't it great how he trolls Saban (oh wait we already did the social media theatrics bullshite with Bert and we got our arse beaten).
To be fair, I've seen you mention this more than once about the comparison between Bert and Lane. They are not even close to on the same plane in terms of how they "troll". Kiffin tries to be somewhat subtle and hasn't done something as foolish as Bert regarding the Texas high school coaching comment. That being said, you are not wrong about obvious concerns regarding Kiffin.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:15 pm to Drewbie
Pretty significant loss, first time the home team razorbacks lost to a G5 team in little Rock.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:17 pm to rockiee
Kiffens weight gain has to be a concern, no?
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:18 pm to DaleDenton
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Kiffens weight gain has to be a concern, no?
Thats a plus actually
That means he is focusing more on football than chasing tail.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:19 pm to Razorback Reverend
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Why do you hate his being here so much, without going psycho on us all?
I've stated that case on this board ad nauseum, and reiterated as much in this very thread.
I'll add to it that hiring Kiffin would prove something I've thought about a large core of our big money donor cadre since the days of Nutt – that they don't know jack shite about football and value access and the program "being interesting" above winning.
Moreover, stating facts is in no way "going psycho." Go ahead and dispute the facts I laid bare.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:21 pm to Feral
Feral, you seem to have a serious case of being the smartest guy in the room and getting angry if someone has a different opinion.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:23 pm to Ham Solo
They need to just hire somebody so we can stop fighting about it
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:26 pm to Ham Solo
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My concerns with Campbell is that we will handle our cupcakes, beat the Mississippi schools, maybe Vandy or Kentucky, then we go to the weed eater bowl.
Except he's consistently played the big boys close
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