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re: Guy on 247 that others say has ties to our financial dept
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:26 pm to Ham Solo
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:26 pm to Ham Solo
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Feral, you seem to have a serious case of being the smartest guy in the room and getting angry if someone has a different opinion.
Re: Kiffin, I'm merely stating fact. You seem to be relying on conjecture.
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Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:27 pm to Porcine Human
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At this point I feel like y'all intentionally ignoring the arguments made in support of Campbell
I don’t think it’s that, I think it’s that the arguments being made in support of Campbell are exactly the same arguments that were made in support of Morris. We are talking about 6 million plus per year, and not a damn soul can point to anything solid that says any of Campbell’s success will translate to the SEC.
Granted, I’ve only watched a couple of Iowa State games, but they do nothing special on offense, defense, or special teams. There is no feature that you can point to for his teams. They are not innovative on offense. I’ve seen exactly zero special features on offense. Their defense doesn’t blitz a lot, doesn’t feature particularly good schemes or play in the secondary, or defensive line, nothing.
All of which makes me discount the argument that he has made an historically shitty program competitive. No doubt he has done that, but he hasn’t made them competitive for conference or even division titles to my knowledge. So he has made them competitive for 3rd to 5th, in a conference that almost none of us respect for their brand of football.
Where am I wrong?
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:30 pm to troyt37
Fair that the same arguements were made for Morris with a major major difference. Campbell has done it twice and substained it over a longer period of time.
To apply the same logic that Campbell has only taken weak teams to new heights weak conferences, well the same also applies to Kiffin, but he has done it only once, and not twice. Also Kiffin has had two shots at major schools and is now back at FAU. This also does not address that Kiffin has not managed the locker room well in the past.
To apply the same logic that Campbell has only taken weak teams to new heights weak conferences, well the same also applies to Kiffin, but he has done it only once, and not twice. Also Kiffin has had two shots at major schools and is now back at FAU. This also does not address that Kiffin has not managed the locker room well in the past.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:31 pm to troyt37
Did james Franklin make vandy competitive for the sec? I mean I know he hasnr won the big game, but he is in the conversation every year....
Isu is basically vandy... you cant expect him to compete for a championship there.
Isu is basically vandy... you cant expect him to compete for a championship there.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:31 pm to Feral
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Re: Kiffin, I'm merely stating fact. You seem to be relying on conjecture.
Dude:
The issue at hand is who will be better for Arkansas. There are no facts, only speculation based on a million different intangibles, multiplied by transitive property, divided by salary, and then you throw in recruiting just to piss on the whole formula.
As I have said before, there are pros and cons for both. At this point it's a matter of opinion based on what details you value, so come down off your high horse smart guy.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:33 pm to troyt37
Well it would be very very hard for Iowa State to win a divisional title during the time he's been there. Lincoln Riley has yet to wins a divisional title in the big12, so maybe ou is ready to dump him.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:34 pm to russellvillehog
People melted when they thought Franklin was going to hired here one time as well. Everyone wanted gundy then.
The flashy offense always wins with Arkansas fans.
The flashy offense always wins with Arkansas fans.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:36 pm to BadPiggy
Major difference is Campbell beat p5 schools at both stops. I do not recall kiffen beating any p5 schools at FAU.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:36 pm to Feral
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Got fired at Oakland for being a pathological liar? Not his fault, Al Davis is crazy.
Counterpoint: Al Freaking Senile Davis, and Kiffin's age!
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eft Tennessee in a lurch and negative recruited against them before leaving and on his way out? Don't blame him, USC was his dream job.
You know all of this for sure? and USC was his dream job, I mean right? Was told, "Now, or not going to happen" he went, as would I.
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ot fired from Bama a week before the NC game because he basically checked out and didn't game plan? Nah, not his fault, Saban was too much of a stickler about focus (despite the fact that Kirby Smart had no trouble with that at all the postseason prior).
again, Fired is a bit strong. The dude gave them the best offensive coaching they have had period and had already taken a HC position. and Saban is a stickler about everything except the kicking game, and not having time to substitute I guess, lol
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Acts like a shithead on Twitter? Who cares, it's fun and interesting, and isn't it great how he trolls Saban (oh wait we already did the social media theatrics bull shite with Bert and we got our arse beaten).
Don't compare the wit and composure, funny posts of Kiffin with Bert. Dude... they are on a completely different level. One actually relates to recruits, the other runs off recruits and coaches from a much needed territory.
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Y'all need to stop treating Kiffin like a grandchild and apologizing for every career bed shitting he's ever had. He's like your screwed up grandson you still believe can do no wrong — not his fault he keeps getting arrested, it's those damn cops always out to get him.
I would rather have Campbell, Norvell, but my man... Kiffin would do well here with the right staff and recruit better than Chard did overall. Plus the additional fun of having a coach with a personality again.
Thanks, have a great night!
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:37 pm to Feral
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Go ahead and dispute the facts I laid bare.
You obviously laid out some legit concerns regarding Kiffin but also dismissed some serious reasons for some of his problems in the past. Kiffin shouldn't get a pass for every problem he has had but there are also some very positive aspects of his coaching in all of those tenures you laid out.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:38 pm to Razorback Reverend
Fired isn't a bit strong, it's being nice for saban had his shite packed and left in the parking lot for him.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:39 pm to DaleDenton
I don't remember that at all. And don't care. Sark is in his 2nd go around with Saban right?
I would drink heavy if I had to coach for Saban. He wins, at all costs of how he treat others.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:41 pm to Razorback Reverend
Sark replaced kiffen for one game, then left for the NFL.
His drinking/pill popping started at SC.
His drinking/pill popping started at SC.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:43 pm to russellvillehog
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Sauce on girl on goybook?
Sorry, she's taken. And a super hot gymnast
I don't think we'll pay Campbell more than $5.5 million, which is middle of the pack in the SEC. Even if that goes up to $6 million that's kind of the new norm for the conference.
Some of y'all freaking out saying "he's not worth $7 million a year to possibly get us to 7 or 8 wins" are off base.
First of all, we aren't paying him $7 mil. Second, that's what coaches contracts are coming to in this league, we're basically just becoming one of the pack. You pay for a quality, experienced coach. Third, we're gonna have to pay a little higher than whatever the actual coach is worth due to our position and the monumental task at hand. Plus we have to show that we're committed to him after canning Morris before he could complete 2 years.
Just the way it is. I'm personally happy that those numbers are being thrown around, it shows we're serious about getting a winner here and are willing to hang with the big boys when it comes to money. We're showing that we have everything to offer that a "blueblood" would. I like it.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:48 pm to RazorBroncs
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Sorry, she's taken. And a super hot gymnast
Whatever. She couldn't ride this ride anyways.
Back to kiffin. He is a total baw, and croots know it.
I'm drunk. Hire the man. If we can't get Campbell or kiffin. Get art Briles. Atleast we know our boys will be getting laid.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 11:50 pm to RazorBroncs
That’s right, they going to be paying lots of “stupid tax” to clean up this dumpster fire.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:04 am to JohnnyBob
Why is everyone talking about coaches when there are Bammers and Aggies to troll on the score board
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:10 am to dbeck
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Why is everyone talking about coaches when there are Bammers and Aggies to troll on the score board
Because there are too many LSU morons spanking their monkey on the board to get any traction.
If you start a good thread it's on the 2nd page before you can get a reply.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:24 am to Ham Solo
yep... love that bammer finally isn't going to be in the playoffs, but hate that it is LSU going all Coon Azz everywhere...
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:27 am to Razorback Reverend
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but hate that it is LSU going all Coon Azz everywhere...
Exactly, it's like every Arkansas sports talk radio caller starting threads at the same time for hours on end.
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