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Chad Morris is not SEC head coach material
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:04 am
For everyone who wants to put all the blame on the players, did you know we averaged a top 25 class the past five years? The recruiting under Bielema was not historically bad. This Chad Morris coached team is.
Bielema isn't forcing Chad to put Deon Stewart in the game. He's not forcing Chad to have De'vion Warren try two trick plays in the same game. This guy has no fricking clue what he's doing and it shows. He might not even be head coach material at all, as his record as a head coach now stands at 16-31. At some point you have to start blaming the guy in charge.
Bielema isn't forcing Chad to put Deon Stewart in the game. He's not forcing Chad to have De'vion Warren try two trick plays in the same game. This guy has no fricking clue what he's doing and it shows. He might not even be head coach material at all, as his record as a head coach now stands at 16-31. At some point you have to start blaming the guy in charge.
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:08 am to Stonehog
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For everyone who wants to put all the blame on the players
So what about the people who think there is blame on both sides?
IMO, the people putting 100% of the blame on the coach or the players are being unreasonable.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:14 am to Stonehog
Gene Chizik won the SEC and a NC with a similar HC record, similar in that it was bad.
OSU saw their record improve after Les Miles left, yet he won the SEC and a NC.
So he could be a SEC HC material if he can do what those two guys did in hiring assistants to do the coaching and recruiting for him.
OSU saw their record improve after Les Miles left, yet he won the SEC and a NC.
So he could be a SEC HC material if he can do what those two guys did in hiring assistants to do the coaching and recruiting for him.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:21 am to Stonehog
I see our guys getting physically pushed around by Vandy and our DBs burned by Colorado State. Mississippi State RBs running over our defenders like they are middle schoolers.
I don’t care what the class rankings were, there is little talent on the roster and you can tell by just watching them play.
I don’t care what the class rankings were, there is little talent on the roster and you can tell by just watching them play.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:32 am to gohogs141
The players looked bad under Bielema. The players look bad under Morris. I think it’s safe to say the recruiting rankings weren’t accurate for a lot of these folks.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:33 am to Stonehog
I don't think Morris is the issue at all. Some of his assistants are, especially Joe Craddock.
He's got some tough choices to make.
He's got some tough choices to make.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:37 am to PorkSammich
Who knows.
What's for damn sure is FatBert was never head coach material anywhere.
... and he was stupid enough not to see his mentor doing all the coaching in Wisconsin, and thought he could do it himself.
frick that guy, and frick everyone too stupid to figure out how bad Long and Bert were for Arkansas football.
What's for damn sure is FatBert was never head coach material anywhere.
... and he was stupid enough not to see his mentor doing all the coaching in Wisconsin, and thought he could do it himself.
frick that guy, and frick everyone too stupid to figure out how bad Long and Bert were for Arkansas football.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:37 am to Stonehog
Well ty storey straight up said there are some guys here that arent bought in, and need to move on. So i guess that is chad's fault? Bert literally only recruited in front of Kentucky, and vanderbilt consistently. The rest of the west, and sec all have recruiting in the teens for the most part.
Arkansas has not kept up with the sec recruiting wise in any capacity. Most of berts classes were top heavy and half of his 4 stars he signed the last few years are not here for one reason or another.
If you think we have "all this talent" please name the talented players, and i will name that of our competition. The NT game im not even sure we had more talent than them. They seriously had faster, and hungrier players than we did. But any sec team has better players than us. That is simply a fact.
Arkansas has not kept up with the sec recruiting wise in any capacity. Most of berts classes were top heavy and half of his 4 stars he signed the last few years are not here for one reason or another.
If you think we have "all this talent" please name the talented players, and i will name that of our competition. The NT game im not even sure we had more talent than them. They seriously had faster, and hungrier players than we did. But any sec team has better players than us. That is simply a fact.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:37 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:Ty Storey was a 4 star QB and can't throw it 30 yards in the air without losing his grip on the ball. Yesterday we finally saw why we haven't been trying to attack over the top all year. Our QB literally can't do it.
I think it’s safe to say the recruiting rankings weren’t accurate for a lot of these folks.
As for the OP's point, I think any coach is going to look bad when there is a large contingent of players that just flat out never bought in to his system from the time that he got there. You can point out problems you have with the coaching, but those problems are magnified when the players are half-assing it on the field because they don't give two shits about playing for the new guy.
Ty and Chad's comments after the game yesterday suggest this has been an ongoing issue all year internally within the team. I mentioned this earlier in the year, but this isn't some roster that showed signs of promise under the old regime. Within a system they were specifically recruited for, playing in an offense that had been established for multiple years, playing for a coach they actually wanted to play for, that roster won 4 games last year. There's no talent. There's no hidden potential waiting to be tapped into by the right coach. This roster just flat out sucks. We won't know what Chad is capable of for sure until this roster gets flushed and Chad fills it up with guys that actually want to be here.
quote:This is a bit disingenuous. Bert's last recruiting class did come in at #24 on Rivals, but it also only consisted of 5 4 star recruits. Chad has more than doubled that in his first full year of recruiting. Bert's last class averaged 3.04 stars. The 2016 class was even worse. #30 class on Rivals with only 4 of 23 signees being 4 stars and the average recruit ranking was 2.91 stars. Bret literally averaged under 3 stars recruiting for an SEC team, and he did it more than once. For the sake of time, here's the breakdown (all from Rivals):
did you know we averaged a top 25 class the past five years
2013 - #27 class | 23 signed | 4 4-stars | 2.96 average
2014 - #29 class | 25 signed | 3 4-stars | 2.84 average
2015 - #25 class | 23 signed | 7 4-stars | 3.26 average
2016 - #30 class | 23 signed | 4 4-stars | 2.91 average
2017 - #24 class | 27 signed | 5 4-stars | 3.04 average
So as you can see, we actually didn't even average a top 25 class under Bret. We actually averaged under 3 stars recruiting more times than he signed a class averaging over 3 stars. Morris is about to sign more 4-stars in one class than Bret did in his first two, almost three, classes combined.
Our current class averages 3.46, Clemson's #4 ranked class averages 3.5. To insinuate Morris and Bert have recruited on the same level is misleading and just not true up to this point.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:49 am to PorkSammich
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I don't think Morris is the issue at all. Some of his assistants are, especially Joe Craddock.
He's got some tough choices to make.
I don't know how you work your way to Arkansas's first 10 loss season and not make staff changes.
Not sure replacing Craddock is going to make a difference in the offense one way or another, especially when your replace him with a guy like Rhett Lashlee.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:00 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I think it’s safe to say the recruiting rankings weren’t accurate for a lot of these folks.
Circumstances, injuries and coaching all attribute to how a certain star player ends up at the end of their career.
Then some are just straight up misses by the recruiting gurus.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:04 pm to Stonehog
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At some point you have to start blaming the guy in charge.
I agree with this. Only thing is, it isn't that time yet. Not in year one. Because that would be stupid. And I don't know about you, but I'm not stupid.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:05 pm to Stonehog
The thing you might not realize is that a top 25 recruiting is still in the 12-14 range in the SEC. We have a grand total of 6 SEC caliber players on our team. There isn’t a coach alive or dead for that matter that could win with this roster. Has CCM done some things that make you ask WTF, yes, but when you are overmatched at basically every position you have to do something to try and gain a little momentum.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:13 pm to HogsWillRiseAgain
...and then the logical question to ask is WHY THE frick are we overmatched all over the field.
But sure... some dumbfricks will readily jump to blaming Morris for this year.
The scary thing about "average" in the population isn't the 50th percentile person...
But sure... some dumbfricks will readily jump to blaming Morris for this year.
The scary thing about "average" in the population isn't the 50th percentile person...
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:28 pm to Beached Tusky
I definitely haven't given up on Morris but at the same time, he doesnt deserve a free pass for fielding most likely the worst Razorback team ever. Even with several recruiting whiffs, we're a D1, SEC program that's been top 25 in recruiting in several of the last 5 years. 2-10 is unacceptable.
That said, I like what I hear from Morris, and how he was clearly pissed off in the post game interview .."completely unacceptable" was a recurring theme there. He's pissed and gives the impression he's more than willing to do what needs to be done to move the program in the right direction.
But 2-10 is fricking bad.
That said, I like what I hear from Morris, and how he was clearly pissed off in the post game interview .."completely unacceptable" was a recurring theme there. He's pissed and gives the impression he's more than willing to do what needs to be done to move the program in the right direction.
But 2-10 is fricking bad.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:30 pm to dammitbert
quote:So is averaging less than 3 stars per recruiting class over an entire tenure. That's Kentucky level recruiting and we wonder why we're bad now.
But 2-10 is fricking bad.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:35 pm to Drewbie
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This is a bit disingenuous. Bert's last recruiting class did come in at #24 on Rivals, but it also only consisted of 5 4 star recruits. Chad has more than doubled that in his first full year of recruiting. Bert's last class averaged 3.04 stars. The 2016 class was even worse. #30 class on Rivals with only 4 of 23 signees being 4 stars and the average recruit ranking was 2.91 stars. Bret literally averaged under 3 stars recruiting for an SEC team, and he did it more than once. For the sake of time, here's the breakdown (all from Rivals):
2013 - #27 class | 23 signed | 4 4-stars | 2.96 average
2014 - #29 class | 25 signed | 3 4-stars | 2.84 average
2015 - #25 class | 23 signed | 7 4-stars | 3.26 average
2016 - #30 class | 23 signed | 4 4-stars | 2.91 average
2017 - #24 class | 27 signed | 5 4-stars | 3.04 average
Composite is the best route to go - it's the average of all rankings:
Bielema 2013 - 23
Bielema 2014 - 29
Bielema 2015 - 22
Bielema 2016 - 23
Bielema 2017 - 27
Bielema average = 24.8
Morris 2018 - 48
Morris 2019 - 16 (currently)
Morris average - 32
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:36 pm to dammitbert
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"completely unacceptable" was a recurring theme there.
He's getting heat from Yurachek. I don't think this was reported by our media, but Hunter sat in for Chad's Monday press conference last week. It's the first time that's happened. I noticed Chad actually answered the questions asked of him when Hunter was in the room, instead of answering every question with "we gotta focus on Arkansas and try to get better." He's feeling some pressure for sure. Now he probably has to fire some people that he's really close to as well.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:41 pm to Stonehog
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He's getting heat from Yurachek.
Good. It's good to think there may be a little bit of accountability in the program now...sure as hell didn't get that feeling with Long and Bert.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:42 pm to Stonehog
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He's feeling some pressure for sure. Now he probably has to fire some people that he's really close to as well.
I don't see Yurachek having a set this large since he basically caved on the games in tWardump.
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