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re: At what point do Pittman and staff have to get to so they will not be retained?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:28 pm to Clark14
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:28 pm to Clark14
quote:I mean is it not year 5 under Pittman? Are all the players on the roster not his recruits? Did you not say he doesn’t have anything to do with offense or defense?
Whatever you think pal, everything you opine on is fact to you, that’s a fact.
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:17 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I mean is it not year 5 under Pittman? Are all the players on the roster not his recruits? Did you not say he doesn’t have anything to do with offense or defense?
His coordinators have the biggest say as to who fits their system and recruits them. Petrino chose and got green at qb for instance because he thought he was the best option. But I guess Sam could have told Petrino he didn’t know what he was talking about and chose someone else even though he turned the offense over to him.
But it’s all Sam’s fault, I get it.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:17 pm to GoldenSombrero
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I’m saying a quality HC gets us 8-9 wins.
I assume you are meaning regular season, but you know it's still possible for us to end up with 8 wins overall, right? Not saying it's likely, but not what I'd call impossible either.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 7:20 pm to WonderWartHawg
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I assume you are meaning regular season, but you know it's still possible for us to end up with 8 wins overall, right? Not saying it's likely, but not what I'd call impossible either.
Some want Sam to fail so we can get another dude to fire and pay off.
I understood why Bert and Chad had to go but Sam is trying and wants to win as much as any of us. It’s obvious it wears on him.
And if we fire him without giving him what he needs to be his best against the sec competition then we are throwing money away on a buyout then praying the next poor sap will get the money to do it plus he’ll get a higher salary. Then we can talk about firing him in year 3 or 4, , ..good times…
Posted on 11/22/24 at 7:30 pm to Clark14
quote:and that’s the issue. We can go 6-6 in perpetuity with Sam because you like him and he “loves the hog.” And you’ll just pivot by blaming anyone but the head coach. Or just say we’re poor lil Arkie and this is as good as anyone else could do.
but Sam is trying and wants to win as much as any of us
Posted on 11/22/24 at 7:32 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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and that’s the issue. We can go 6-6 in perpetuity with Sam because you like him and he “loves the hog.” And you’ll just pivot by blaming anyone but the head coach. Or just say we’re poor lil Arkie and this is as good as anyone else could do.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:34 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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the areogance from an old geezer is priceless.
Dude!
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t’s not an opinion it’s a fact. It’s year 5. Every player who is on the team is a kid Sam wanted.
Well yeah, but he didn't want them as much as others who cost much more $$ Duh!
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And his team is undisciplined and have a tendency to lose games they shouldn’t even when they’ve had better talent.
At times, this has been true. THe same can be said about many other coaches period. THe Coordinators have something to do with this as well.
BUT, BUT.... He has been pigeonholed in the position that he is in by a AD who forced us to be behind the curb with NIL, and a state that will not support NIL as it shoud (see casinogate, etal). so, what do you do? Pay out the $$$ for Sam, and all coordinators/assistants to the tune of ???? 16-18 million, and then buyout other coaches to come to the tune of 3-5 Million more? During the year of the settlement of having to pay more Millions? Or take what would have been the buyout, the settlement and try to pay that to better players for our current staff?
We are screwed either way. IMHO... so what is the less painful way? We will most like disagree on this personally. I believe it is to keep the current staff, pay the nil and settlement, and go from there. But, since I too am an old Geezer and full of arrogance... Frick ya!
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:47 pm to Razorback Reverend
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We are screwed either way. IMHO... so what is the less painful way? We will most like disagree on this personally. I believe it is to keep the current staff, pay the nil and settlement, and go from there. But, since I too am an old Geezer and full of arrogance... Frick ya!
Yep, well said.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:49 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
You're in the anger stage level of grief.
It will take you some time but you will soon be at the acceptance level.
It will take you some time but you will soon be at the acceptance level.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:54 am to GoldenSombrero
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Pittman hasn’t shown me any reason why I, or anyone, should be investing more in NIL.
All of this right here.
I'm at the point in my career and life where I can afford good season tickets in fb and hoops. I won't buy hoops til my son is a little older and can go with me.
There's absolutely no desire for me to buy into this football program. They charge first class prices for coach results, and that's on them.
Pittman lost fans like me when he hired Sexton so he could "get his". He promised stability and to retire when he couldn't get the job done, and lied about it all.
Sam, Hunter, and the entire support staff for football can all kick rocks. Come back to folks like me when you're actually serious about winning and have a game plan on doing so, which is your fricking job. Hunter thought he was going to win the moral high ground reward for not taking NIL seriously and see where thats gotten him. A broke arse state like Mississippi has Ole Miss buying their way to the top 10 despite competing with another large in state school for both talent and money.
And I swear to God if I have to hear hunter brag about how successful they are in women's sports ONE more time I will lose my shite.
Happy Saturday
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/23/24 at 8:18 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Or we could win 9 games and y'all will find a way to credit literally everyone but the head coach. This bs goes both ways.
We can go 6-6 in perpetuity with Sam because you like him and he “loves the hog.” And you’ll just pivot by blaming anyone but the head coach.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 9:30 am to dchog
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Arkansas turns the ball over on downs against OSU late in the fourth quarter.
Taylen Green gets sacked and fumbles the ball with less than two minutes left in the fourth quarter.
Arkansas fumbles the ball against LSU in the fourth quarter.
Arkansas fumbles the ball against Texas late in the fourth quarter.
Exactly, we aren’t losing bc of NIL like Sam and Hunter want everyone to think.
We are losing bc we are poorly prepared, make a zillion penalties and self inflicted mistakes. We can’t build an Oline which was supposed to be his strength.
Sam has no fire left in him.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:30 pm to Razorback Reverend
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He has been pigeonholed in the position that he is in by a AD who forced us to be behind the curb with NIL
Sam is and has been totally against nil.
2.5 million in nil money isn't jack shite in todays market. It effects the quality of players that we're able to get and he's proved they can't coach them up.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:09 pm to ArHog
I don't believe in it either. But it's the facts of life in NCAA football for now.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:20 pm to WonderWartHawg
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I don't believe in it either. But it's the facts of life in NCAA football for now.
Neither did Saban, at least he did the right thing and quit.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:56 pm to FayetteNAM
Sam's got to go. As usual, we aren't prepared for our opponent, we make costly penalties, and we are a turnover machine. Same shite every season.
Luckily for us La Tech seems interested in Derping as much as we do.
Luckily for us La Tech seems interested in Derping as much as we do.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:00 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
I know that Tech has a legit good defense for a mid-major but It feels like our guys thought they could just show up and win. We're going to FAFO, it feels like.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:57 pm to Hank Murphy
We are a sloppy, undisciplined, low IQ team because we mirror our sloppy, undisciplined, low IQ coach.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:14 pm to Feral
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We are a sloppy, undisciplined, low IQ team because we mirror our sloppy, undisciplined, low IQ coach.
Time to turn up that jukebox bah.
Drinking col beers tonight after a win against such a vaunted defense
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:21 pm to oklahogjr
Here comes LARRY!
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