re: 21-5 or this?

I’m happy with what we’ve got right now as long as Sam can get us to 7-9 win consistently. Then eventually we’ll get a break or 2 and get into the double digit win column. If he’s doing that I’d never fire him for not winning the sec. basically if you gave me auburn under gus I’d be content. I don’t think it can be said enough just how bad bert and Chaggie was for us. We may not be blue bloods in football or have the best in state talent but they were historically bad coaches here

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really don't think we have the potential in football (in the SEC) to ever be consistently great. History should have taught us that by now.

In the other sports, yes, we can be consistently great.

Hell, in football, we are fine with averaging 7.5-8 wins per season over a 5-10 year run with the occasional 10 win season. We aren't that hard to please in football.

I'd rather be damn fine in basketball and baseball every year.

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Our population base lends us to being better at sports they don't require an 85 man roster

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I really don't think we have the potential in football (in the SEC) to ever be consistently great. History should have taught us that by now.

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I don’t agree with this. Too man y of you are acting like the same 4 schools have been good forever and will be so into perpetuate. Clemson was never great until dabo. Hell that was the term for blowing it “clemsoning”. Florida state was arse before Bowden, Florida was shite before spurrier, Oklahoma was in the doldrums in between switzer and stoops. Hell even bama had a big drop off in between Saban and the bear. Sure they had some good years here and there but by and large even the blue bloods aren’t so blue without good coaching. See Tennessee, Nebraska, Miami, notre dame, Michigan, USC. there was a time where if you said any of those schools would ever fall into mediocrity you’d be laughed out the room. We have the capacity to be a great football program with the right coach. If we start winning we have the resources to keep our coach, and if we start winning we have the facilities and fan base to attract top talent. If ole miss and Oklahoma can be relevant in football so can we.

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Petrino situation sank us, and we are still digging our way out.

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I just don’t believe this, if this was still 2016 I’d believe it, but it doesn’t take 10 years to rebuild after one football coach. The 3 hires after Petrino is what we are building off of.

Bert had it going good until his fat drunkenness ran off all the good hires he made. Then that tool Chad set us back, but recruited well.

Petrino didn't sink anything. Hiring John L Smith, Bert and Chad was our doom.

Bert took a decent situation from Petrino and went 0-8 in his first year. Then proceeded to underachieve his whole time here.

Then Chad took a bad situation and went nuclear.

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SEC championship game every 4-5 years and that coach would have a contract for life.

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Well yeah...but expecting this is crazy. Major bowl once every 4 years. Every few of those years we might have been playing for the sec championship. So sec championship run like every decade or two is more realistic.

As of now we don't have a baseball or basketball natty (since 94), so I'd take 21-5 over that.

Now if we start winning baseball/basketball titles then I might change my mind

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its a total chore to even find any of these baseball games on tv

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The only baseball games I've missed the last 4 years were ones I had something else going on. A smart TV, roku, ESPN+ will get you every baseball, softball, soccer, gymnastics, track youcan handle.

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Well yeah...but expecting this is crazy.

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Only while Saban is still there, but dudes 69, how much longer does he have?