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Posted on 3/25/23 at 4:12 pm to Poker_hog
Agreed. Unless we’ve got the budget to just buy an elite team, I’d rather not turn over 11 guys from our roster ever again.
There are a lot more coaches hawking the transfer portal these days. We’ll see what quality of transfer we can attract this go round. If it isn’t a significant step up from last year’s group, Muss might need to start supplementing his rosters with player development. I don’t want to trade Pinion, Ford and Dunning for another group of replacement level SEC players.
There are a lot more coaches hawking the transfer portal these days. We’ll see what quality of transfer we can attract this go round. If it isn’t a significant step up from last year’s group, Muss might need to start supplementing his rosters with player development. I don’t want to trade Pinion, Ford and Dunning for another group of replacement level SEC players.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:17 pm to beaverfever
Muss has only been a head coach in the college game since 2015. Most of his career has been in the pros.
I think he is learning through trial and error. His needs to start developing some of these players eventually instead of the one and done.
These teams in the elite 8 are experienced, highly developed offensively, very physical and are tough.
The portal should be used to fill in the missing gaps when some players leave. But I wouldn't do that each year and put some emphasis on player development.
I think he is learning through trial and error. His needs to start developing some of these players eventually instead of the one and done.
These teams in the elite 8 are experienced, highly developed offensively, very physical and are tough.
The portal should be used to fill in the missing gaps when some players leave. But I wouldn't do that each year and put some emphasis on player development.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:33 pm to SmackoverHawg
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ETA-Not to mention leaving the team at UALR and being somewhat of a headcase.
Ah, I didn't know about that. Don't think I had heard of the guy until the NCAAT.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:24 pm to dchog
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Muss has only been a head coach in the college game since 2015. Most of his career has been in the pros.
I think he is learning through trial and error. His needs to start developing some of these players eventually instead of the one and done.
These teams in the elite 8 are experienced, highly developed offensively, very physical and are tough.
To be fair, Muss has largely excelled with upperclassmen transfers and refining their skills.
This year felt so different because we didn’t have the age and toughness of Muss’s first two tournament teams. I think he probably shys away from one and done laden classes from now on and goes after more experience in the portal while using talented freshmen as supplementary parts.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:07 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Defensive liability
He had 5 steals 2 nights ago.
And Muss recruited Lykes.
Think we just missed on two DUDES right in our back yard. Omier is a beast.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:10 pm to STLhog
I want to criticize Muss for the misses, but we had so much talent already. Would Nowell have been better than Council? Omier better than the Mitchell twins? Both are great players, but I can't honestly say that I think they would have been better fits for our team.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:19 pm to redeye
Didn’t say it was Muss fault. There were probably plenty of things at play.
Omier apparently wanted to be in Miami and they paid a lot. Sounds like Nowell had some off the court stuff.
The biggest miss was 5 Freshman. You get a Toney/Umede or both in place of one of the 3 and/or Graham and we’re a completely different team.
It is what it is. He will learn from it and still made a sweet 16 in spite of it all.
Omier apparently wanted to be in Miami and they paid a lot. Sounds like Nowell had some off the court stuff.
The biggest miss was 5 Freshman. You get a Toney/Umede or both in place of one of the 3 and/or Graham and we’re a completely different team.
It is what it is. He will learn from it and still made a sweet 16 in spite of it all.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:11 pm to redeye
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Would Nowell have been better than Council?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:22 pm to beaverfever
Looks like the staff is really Rice PG Olivari. Going out to visit him soon
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:34 pm to Feral
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I think he probably shys away from one and done laden classes from now on and goes after more experience in the portal while using talented freshmen as supplementary parts.
Good God, I hope.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:36 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Count me in for wanting to see Dunning stick around. I think he'll be very good soon. Also glad to hear that Pinion will probably stick around.
I'm sort of ambivalent with Ford, because he doesn't appear to be a good shooter or an assist leader. If he sticks around, I'd like to see him develop into a PG. He seems to have the tools to be a good PG.
Also agree with dchog on the portal and think Muss needs to develop players more, rather than trading them away.
Are the twins out of eligibility? I'd like to see them return. If they don't, then finding a good bigs becomes priority #1 or we'll face the same problem we had with Duke last year. For all of the talk about Sanogo, the 7'2 Clingan played a big role in UConn's success, also. Alabama (Bediako) and UConn were both in the top 15 for rebounds per game, while Arkansas - with all our "length" - ranked #146. I think it's especially a problem if you don't have great 3pt shooters to marginalize your opponent's rebounding advantage.
We all want good shooters. I'm skeptical that the transfer guard mentioned earlier is the answer here. Why can't Muss find good shooters?
Finally, it seems every year that Muss tries to duplicate the look of the team that ended our season. After losing to Baylor he went after big, athletic guards. After losing to Duke he finally made size a priority. UConn had good size and shooting, but they also have an offense that relies on assists to get easy buckets. That's a change of coaching style that I'd love to see and it's something that experience can make a big difference with.
I'm sort of ambivalent with Ford, because he doesn't appear to be a good shooter or an assist leader. If he sticks around, I'd like to see him develop into a PG. He seems to have the tools to be a good PG.
Also agree with dchog on the portal and think Muss needs to develop players more, rather than trading them away.
Are the twins out of eligibility? I'd like to see them return. If they don't, then finding a good bigs becomes priority #1 or we'll face the same problem we had with Duke last year. For all of the talk about Sanogo, the 7'2 Clingan played a big role in UConn's success, also. Alabama (Bediako) and UConn were both in the top 15 for rebounds per game, while Arkansas - with all our "length" - ranked #146. I think it's especially a problem if you don't have great 3pt shooters to marginalize your opponent's rebounding advantage.
We all want good shooters. I'm skeptical that the transfer guard mentioned earlier is the answer here. Why can't Muss find good shooters?
Finally, it seems every year that Muss tries to duplicate the look of the team that ended our season. After losing to Baylor he went after big, athletic guards. After losing to Duke he finally made size a priority. UConn had good size and shooting, but they also have an offense that relies on assists to get easy buckets. That's a change of coaching style that I'd love to see and it's something that experience can make a big difference with.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:44 pm to redeye
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Alabama (Bediako) and UConn were both in the top 15 for rebounds per game, while Arkansas - with all our "length" - ranked #146.
But no means it’s this the best way to determine whether you’re a good rebounding team or not.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:53 pm to redeye
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For all of the talk about Sanogo, the 7'2 Clingan played a big role in UConn's success, also. Alabama (Bediako) and UConn were both in the top 15 for rebounds per game, while Arkansas - with all our "length" - ranked #146
But you want the twins back? I'm all for continuity but I don't think they'll magically become better rebounders/more physical. They aren't championship level bigs. I think I'd be ok with one coming back for depth but they're a package deal.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:29 am to Porcine Human
Getting some great bigs was important to me last year at this time. I expected to be disappointed with the Twins. But while they're not the best, they've been good, imo. Neither is a star, but I'm skeptical that Muss would find anyone better, if they even exist in the portal. Who in the portal would you take over them?
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:32 am to redeye
Graham Ike
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:32 am to cubsfan5150
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But no means it’s this the best way to determine whether you’re a good rebounding team or not.
So what would you suggest is a better method?
Also, does it negate my point about Alabama and UConn being good rebound teams?
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:33 am to redeye
Yeah I mean assuming Brazile returns that's the biggest "addition" to next years team you'll find.
If the twins want to return I say why not. Fall will be good defensively year 1 like Walsh and can sub them if not eventually start later in the year.
Idk why people underestimate Fall, he's the #16 OVR and a McDonald's All American at 6'10" 205 before getting to campus.
This is unbelievably valuable to us immediately like Walsh's defense was.
If the twins want to return I say why not. Fall will be good defensively year 1 like Walsh and can sub them if not eventually start later in the year.
Idk why people underestimate Fall, he's the #16 OVR and a McDonald's All American at 6'10" 205 before getting to campus.
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Fall is a physically gifted big man with size, length, athleticism, and mobility. He runs the floor extremely well, can slide his feet laterally, and is a bouncy leaper. His best potential lies on the defensive end of the floor, where he is already a high-level rim protector who can block shots on and off the ball. He also moves exceptionally well laterally for his size, allowing him rare versatility as a pick-and-roll defender, who can even be switchable in certain situations.
This is unbelievably valuable to us immediately like Walsh's defense was.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 12:35 am
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:34 am to Porcine Human
I've only seen Ike a little, but he didn't seem much different to me. I'll watch some more video on him.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:40 am to UltimateHog
I was forgetting all about Fall. I think people underestimate him because he's quite raw, like Walsh. He's also rail thin, so he won't be moving people out of the way.
We could be dangerous with Brazile and Fall, if we'd have them crash the boards for offensive rebounds. Brazile already does that well.
We could be dangerous with Brazile and Fall, if we'd have them crash the boards for offensive rebounds. Brazile already does that well.
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