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Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:42 pm to rockiee
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Reporter saying Bama has already contacted Beard about their job
LOL, at least they're swinging for the fences?
Could truly see them winding up with Anderson, heck even Vandy would be a decent fit for him.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:43 pm to Drewbie
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If he can wait at Tech for Texas to open up, he can do it here too. Might get lucky and have him realize we're a better job.
I'm all for making him say no but its hard to say no to your alma mater when it comes calling
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:44 pm to STLhog
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Could truly see them winding up with Anderson, heck even Vandy would be a decent fit for him.
Nah, they will do fairly well. I think Forbes would be their safe go to if bigger names so no.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:54 pm to STLhog
quote:You honestly think Tech is willing to put 4 mil down on a basketball coach? I'm not convinced. They're still Tech.
Just saying, if they'll match say 4 million, do you see him leaving?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:55 pm to rockiee
quote:Yeah that's why I said we'd have to get lucky.
I'm all for making him say no but its hard to say no to your alma mater when it comes calling
But hey, if he gets here and starts winning like he is at Tech and sees how batshit crazy rabid that would turn this fanbase, might be hard to leave.
All of this assuming Shaka doesn't work out, of course. It may not even come to that. Still at the very least we have to make Beard turn us down.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:13 pm to Drewbie
Ask Beard, if he says no ask Sampson. If he says no
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:25 pm to Drewbie
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Still at the very least we have to make Beard turn us down.
Sure, I just think he is using everyone to put more pressure on Texas but we will see.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:37 pm to rockiee
I think if we truly want Beard and are truly committed to winning he's ours for the taking.
When I say committed I mean $$$$$$.
What costs more, buying out losing coaches or paying 1 million more than other schools are willing to pay for a winner?
Whether or not Beard is that guy is up to better basketball people than me, but paying more for a winner is much cheaper than constantly firing losers.
From a pure business perspective I would be willing to pay out the arse for someone that brings in revenue than save 1 million on a guy I may have to buyout in a few years.
That being said it's all a gamble and if I overpay on a bust I would be gone. I would rather roll the dice on who I believe in, than try to get by on the cheap and hope it works in my favor.
When I say committed I mean $$$$$$.
What costs more, buying out losing coaches or paying 1 million more than other schools are willing to pay for a winner?
Whether or not Beard is that guy is up to better basketball people than me, but paying more for a winner is much cheaper than constantly firing losers.
From a pure business perspective I would be willing to pay out the arse for someone that brings in revenue than save 1 million on a guy I may have to buyout in a few years.
That being said it's all a gamble and if I overpay on a bust I would be gone. I would rather roll the dice on who I believe in, than try to get by on the cheap and hope it works in my favor.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:47 pm to Latarian
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Ask Beard, if he says no ask Sampson.
This is the only course of action I would guess. They are the top 2 targets, with maybe Sampson a slight favorite due to his HY connections.
They will easily command $4+ miion and we will gladly pay them that.
Beard may not lesv Tech at all though if he really loves the place that much.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:48 pm to Jack Ruby
Sampson only makes 1.4M at Houston, there is no way he is going to command 4M to get.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:56 pm to UltimateHog
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Sampson only makes 1.4M at Houston, there is no way he is going to command 4M to get.
Yeah, Houston will try to match but they are not going to be trying to match an offer anything close to 4M
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:59 pm to rockiee
I am not hyped at all about Sampson. I am no basketball expert. So feel free to change my mind.
Her are my hang ups on Sampson.
1. He's getting old.
2. In the past he's been proven as a bit dirty. The dirty thing I'm not necessarily against since that's what we are up against. I just know for 100% fact under Long and Anderson we were completely clean.
If we are willing to give Sampson what he needs I might be okay with it.
I have a strange suspicion Mike may be gone because that's the route we are going and he wasn't on board. Feel free to discuss.
Her are my hang ups on Sampson.
1. He's getting old.
2. In the past he's been proven as a bit dirty. The dirty thing I'm not necessarily against since that's what we are up against. I just know for 100% fact under Long and Anderson we were completely clean.
If we are willing to give Sampson what he needs I might be okay with it.
I have a strange suspicion Mike may be gone because that's the route we are going and he wasn't on board. Feel free to discuss.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:32 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:02 am to Ham Solo
Age is a concern for Sampson but everything he was busted for calling recruits well over the allowed limit at the time. Those restrictions are now lifted by the NCAA. It’s not like he got busted hiring hookers for players and paid off every big time recruit with money funneled by a shoe company.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:23 am to beebefootballfan
I understand the Sampson and the calling issue, I'm just asking is that all he was doing? Was more going on?
If more stuff was happening, was and is that the secret to his success. If that's the case, is that where we are prepared to go?
The absolute last thing I think we want to do is hire a dirty coach and say you have to play clean now. That is not a formula that will work.
I don't necessarily want to play dirty, but at the same time I feel like that's where our football and basketball program have both fell off.
Everybody else plays in a gray/black area and we follow every rule.
If we decide to hire a gray/black coach we better give him the tools he needs.
If more stuff was happening, was and is that the secret to his success. If that's the case, is that where we are prepared to go?
The absolute last thing I think we want to do is hire a dirty coach and say you have to play clean now. That is not a formula that will work.
I don't necessarily want to play dirty, but at the same time I feel like that's where our football and basketball program have both fell off.
Everybody else plays in a gray/black area and we follow every rule.
If we decide to hire a gray/black coach we better give him the tools he needs.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:24 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:26 am to Ham Solo
Sampson has been clean for awhile, with all of these scandals going on and him building UH into a power in a few short years...not a single mention in connection to any of it.
Like was mentioned, he was ahead of his time in recruiting tactics, most of what he did is no longer illegal. Most of what he did was recruiting too hard.
Nothing compared to what we've seen others do in recent years and in relation to the major scandals.
Like was mentioned, he was ahead of his time in recruiting tactics, most of what he did is no longer illegal. Most of what he did was recruiting too hard.
Nothing compared to what we've seen others do in recent years and in relation to the major scandals.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:28 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:44 am to UltimateHog
CBS:
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:53 am to UltimateHog
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Mike Young
wat
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:55 am to Porcine Human
There was a post on our pay board that said a name being floated that is under the radar and not a big name or splash hire but a real shot at the job...I would imagine Mike Young of Wofford is that guy.
This was before the above CBS article as well.
This was before the above CBS article as well.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:55 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:05 am to UltimateHog
He does have Wofford in the dance constantly. Does his formula work in a P5 conference?
I'm assuming he has 3 and 4 year starters year in year out. Does that work in a conference full of 1 and dones.
It seems like these mid major coaches never try to make that jump, that I can think of anyway.
Not against it, but it seems blike an experiment.
I'm assuming he has 3 and 4 year starters year in year out. Does that work in a conference full of 1 and dones.
It seems like these mid major coaches never try to make that jump, that I can think of anyway.
Not against it, but it seems blike an experiment.
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