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re: Who's brilliant idea was it to play Duke as our marquee...

Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:04 pm to
I think it's bullshite that A&M isn't ranked.

How are they any different from these other teams that struggle against weak opponents?

They had to play three current top 12 opponents and two of them they lost by a combined 22.

Why should Okie State and Texas easily be ranked but they aren't at all?
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:05 pm to
How many times does it have to be covered? Just because we would like to play marquee teams doesn’t mean they want to or will play us. Saban addressed this earlier in the season.

Let’s suck up our guts and accept the fact 1. that sometimes our team loses. 2. We are not going to be on top forever.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:06 pm to
Even if Miami backed out and we were stuck with Duke, why the heck are we scheduling an New Mexico when we have an FCS and Duke scheduled?


This was a horrible job period.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24926 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

I think it's bullshite that A&M isn't ranked.

How are they any different from these other teams that struggle against weak opponents?

They had to play three current top 12 opponents and two of them they lost by a combined 22.

Why should Okie State and Texas easily be ranked but they aren't at all?




I understand what you are saying, but they are just tough to accurately gauge. They are 6-3 and yes they have the best collection of 3 losses in the country (Clemson, Auburn, Alabama) but their 6 wins are pretty bad:

Texas State, Lamar, and UTSA are cupcakes nobody pays attention to and then you have:

Arkansas (a terrible SEC team they only beat by 4 points, they need to blow teams like Arkansas out)

Ole Miss (a mediocre team they only beat by 7 points)

MSU (probably their best win - by 19 points over another mediocre team)

If they blew Arkansas and Ole Miss out you might actually see them in there with the other 6-3 teams in the CFP rankings.

Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 4:36 pm to
Scheduling is hard for a 12 game season and only 8 conference games. No one wants to schedule an almost guaranteed loss, other than those needing a payday.

My preference would be to go back to 11 games regular season for all Div 1. Play 9 SEC games, only 2 OOC, conference CGs, and expand playoff to 8 teams.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:13 pm to
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My preference would be to go back to 11 games regular season for all Div 1. Play 9 SEC games, only 2 OOC, conference CGs, and expand playoff to 8 teams.


100 FBS teams, most of whom would likely never sniff the playoffs in 50 years, aren't going to agree to forfeit the revenue of that 12th game just so 4 more of the top tier teams can get into the playoffs. Will never happen.
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
719 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:23 pm to
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I think it was suppose to be Miami but they backed out to play UF. And no one else wanted the game so we got stuck with Duke.



I Could be wrong about all that though



You aren't wrong. It was supposed to be Miami. But they wanted to play Florida instead and Chick-Fil-A pulled the switcheroo, so now we play Miami in 2021.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 5:25 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20768 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:37 am to
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You aren't wrong. It was supposed to be Miami. But they wanted to play Florida instead and Chick-Fil-A pulled the switcheroo, so now we play Miami in 2021.




Then when we should’ve found a way out of it or found an additional Power 5 game that could’ve given us a boost. Sure, we signed a contract with CFA but surely we could’ve found a way to get out of that if they provided a non-marquee team.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:13 am to
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I understand what you are saying, but they are just tough to accurately gauge. They are 6-3 and yes they have the best collection of 3 losses in the country (Clemson, Auburn, Alabama) but their 6 wins are pretty bad:



Yeah, I have to respect that. This committee really isn't trying to go on the unknown.

They seem to be going on exactly what your results say. If you struggle against a average or bad team you're punished. If you beat a very good team it is good for you; even more than if you lose a tight game to a bad team.

As you correctly stated A&M have no impressive victories and they struggled with poor teams.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15226 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:37 am to
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Bob Bockrath
He was a real sack-o-shite if there ever was one.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1452 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:52 am to
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Never hear anyone trashing CU's schedule and they play a crap one every year

Is the discussion about OOC opponents? I mean, CU scheduled A&M and they have USCe so when comparing our OOC with theirs its not even close.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6507 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:29 am to
Honestly I don’t think it would have mattered who we played. Everyone else but us gets a SOS boost as long as the team they played was ranked high when they played them, but Bama has to hope that they stay good. Case in point was FSU in 2017. That game was talked about all offseason as literally “the biggest CFB opener of all time.” We dominate, but FSU goes on to have a terrible season, and by the end of the year everyone was talking about how bad our schedule was to try to keep us from getting into the top 4.

This year, Georgia gets a boost for wins over ND and Florida just because of where they were ranked at the time. I mean does anybody really consider Florida a top-10 quality win?
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20768 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:33 am to
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by the end of the year everyone was talking about how bad our schedule was to try to keep us from getting into the top 4.


I think the committee gave us a lot more credit for beating FSU than the talking heads did simply because Francois was knocked out late in the 4th.
Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
1482 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:25 pm to
Bama agreed to play in the game and the money. It was then up to Chic fil A and the ACC to provide the opponent. Miami was supposed to be that team but they backed out when they fired Richt. Duke was the only one with the balls to step up and agree. Clemson didn't need it since they already had USCe and A&M on the schedule and they had pretty much made there point back in January.
Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
1482 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:27 pm to
He was a real sack-o- shite if there ever was one.

This times 10!!

Bockrath will forever be remembered as the AD that stormed into the lockerroom at Miss State and demanded an answer from Stallings about his future. Stallings threw his arse out!!!
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20505 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:21 pm to
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Doesn't matter. The University doesn't have to play them, and finally we are getting away from them. A home & home with almost anyone would have been better.


We had already signed a contract for the game, you stupid frick. And in all honesty, the neutral sites had gotten us MUCH better opponents than our ADs had scheduled for decades. Duke was an abberation.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5394 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:44 am to
Got some pretty good OOC games coming up the next few years...USC, Miami, Texas, Wisconsin, Florida State....
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
719 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:44 am to
We had a contract with Chuck-Fil-A and the ACC for the game.

I don’t know if you have looked, but Clemson is the only ACC ranked, and they already had 2 SEC teams on the schedule with A&M and SCar.

There wasn’t a marquee game to be had.
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