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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:29 am to
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:29 am to
So at this point in the season, we have the best 3 wins in the country, along with some terrible losses.

My question is: would you have rather beaten the teams we should've and lost to Gonzaga, Houston, and Baylor, while splitting with LSU and Tennessee? Or would you take our current record?

Is 16-5 with losses to 4 top-10 teams better than 14-7 with 3 top-ten wins?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46345 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:47 am to
quote:

This answer pisses me off. They can do work on BDS or anything to do with football at the snap of a finger. But with basketball it’s always a process.


I mean, what do you want him to say? Because the honest answer would be something along the lines of: "You have to understand that Alabama is a school that spent decades building a culture of 'only football matters' around their athletics program. I'm trying to change that, but I'm also only the second AD you've ever had who didn't play football at this school, and the other one gave you Mike Dubose. Most people in their 20s and 30s have not amassed the kind of wealth that allows them to simply give away 6 and 7 figure sums, and why don't you try asking for money for a new basketball arena from some 67 year old whose sole interest in the sport is how many Tide Pride points he gets from the courtside seats he has used less than 20 times in the 14 years he has had them. Get back to me and let me know how it went, because if you've got any helpful tips I'm all ears."
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 7:48 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13151 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:54 am to
It would be interesting to learn how much profit is actually made from basketball each year. If there is a profit.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46345 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:10 am to
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It would be interesting to learn how much profit is actually made from basketball each year. If there is a profit.


We average around $5 million in profit annually, but those numbers were from Avery years. To put it in perspective, Kentucky is around $30 million in profit annually. Louisville is right behind them. No one else is even close.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 8:15 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13151 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:17 am to
5 million profit is better than a loss, but it must not be moving the folks with the shovels.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30377 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:17 am to
Damn….that pretty much sums it up perfectly
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26341 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:46 am to
Bracketmatrix puts together bracketologists and ranks them based on previous years. Here are the highest ranking ones that have recently released brackets and where they have Bama. Not all of them regularly put out predictions. And some of them predict how the teams will end versus where they are now

2. Delphi-Highest 7-seed before we beat Baylor

3. Heat Check-7 Seed before we beat Baylor

4. Weber Sports-6 Seed before we beat Baylor

6. The Pulse-2nd Highest 7 seed before we beat Baylor

8. 1-3-1 Sports-Highest 6 (Current)

9. Bracketville-4 Seed (Current)

10. D-Rating-5 Seed (Current)

11. Oak Creek-7 Seed before we beat Baylor

19. Jon Teitel-Highest 6 Seed (Current)

21. Making the Madness-4 Seed (Current)

22. Rocco Miller-6 Seed before we beat Baylor

29. Graham Doeren Bracketology-5 Seed (Current)

This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 8:47 am
Posted by Warmth in Winter
Member since Jan 2022
876 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:53 am to
We need to win one of the Auburn or Kentucky games
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:08 am to
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We need to win one of the Auburn or Kentucky games
I'm less worried about winning one of these two than I am about beating Ole Miss on the road right after that.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
16381 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:18 am to
Against Baylor, Alabama Basketball Proved Once Again that It Can Beat Anyone

The Crimson Tide has now beaten three of last year's Final Four teams and its five wins over ranked opponents ties Marquette for the most in the country this season.

(prove it again on Tuesday!)
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1164 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:10 am to
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Youre absolutely right. Lot of words to say nothing at all consequential.


If there is a silver lining in Byrne's delay, it is that I can still afford my Rebounder Club seats at $200 TP donation, and I like where I sit. Byrne's current ploy of calling packed Coleman crowds merely 10K or so is part of his ploy to build a 10K seat arena that cuts out all but season ticket holders and sends me to the rafters. Never once has Byrne addressed the terrible situation of Auburn, Tenn, Ky fans sittting in prime Tide Pride seats, even floor seats, because those corporate and big donor owners rarely go to basketball games and just sell their tickets to Auburn and Kentucky fans on Stub Hub. I seriously doubt Byrne cares who sits in the seats as long as wealthy donors and corporations pay for the seats. You will see many opposing fans and business opportunities sitting in the prime seats at the new arena, but many fewer of the long term (40 plus years of season tickets like me) ticket holders at the games - we won't be able to afford the rafters. I will likely miss Coleman and seeing loyal, true, old time Bama fans at the games.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16679 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:16 am to
I think if you have to choose your better off with the high quality wins under your belt when it comes to metrics and ultimately tournament seeding. With our non-conference wins we will be in the tournament with a .500 league record and it's really not going to be a debate.

This team is capable of more, though.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26341 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:20 am to
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We need to win one of the Auburn or Kentucky games


If we are trying to sneakily grab a 3 seed then yes. But if we just beat everyone we are supposed to beat (lol), then we end up 20-11 and are probably a 5 seed.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2251 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:32 am to
anything under 12,000 seats would be a disaster, and I dont think they will go there. IMO, there is really nothing wrong with the current facility. People complain on this board about the lighting, but there is plenty of light on the court. Do you really want to sit in bright lights?
They could put a lower ceiling and take out 3,000 seats and make the place feel smaller, compressed and loud. To bad most of you missed the Wimp days when it was packed and crazy loud. And, its a nicer facility now than it was back then.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:56 am to
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corporate and big donor owners rarely go to basketball games and just sell their tickets


So I heard a couple years back a lot of those are actually UK fans/Ticket brokers largely to get SECT ticket priority, not just big donors/corporate.

From what I was told by an AU Assc AD, it is more expensive to Stubhub SECT tickets than to get other school priority through season tickets + Stubhub resale games.

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anything under 12,000 seats would be a disaster,


For Coleman or a new arena? Coleman almost feels too big to go lighter than 12,000.

For new arenas, I think 10,000-12,000 is about right. Basketball is better the closer fans are to the court. Feel like ~12,000 is when arena has to build lower deck seats further horizontally which also pushing second deck back as well.

Also, smaller arenas can have flat roofs which are significantly better at trapping/bouncing crowd noise than domes/archers
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46345 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:01 am to
The ceiling and lighting are down the list of Coleman's issues. The layout is outdated garbage and the student section is mostly stuck up in a corner without any courtside seats. The atmosphere is fine when the crowd is decent. It's an objectively unappealing venue though. It just is. Everything about how the seating is arranged and who gets to sit where screams "off campus, corporately opened multi-purpose venue", but it's an on campus facility. There is no reason why all those courtside seats that end up on TV should consistently go empty or be full of opposing fans while the packed student section is pushed 50+ feet away from the court.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
16381 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:06 am to
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AbSnopes

This is the downside for me as well (while acknowledging the upside that has been discussed at length previously). It’s taken many many years after Tide Pride to get decent seats in Coleman (started 5 rows from the top and slowly worked my way down). I’m going to enjoy my seats and neighbors while they last because I’m certain I’ll be sent back to the rafters in a new arena. Arizona’s program requires ‘written commitments’ to capital campaigns in addition to priority club contributions and season tickets purchases to sit in premium sections of the arena.Two tickets with the lowest level of that commitment puts you in the rafters for the cost of just over $2,000 a season. Wouldn’t be surprised to see something along that structure here with the new arena. The price of progress I suppose.

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:10 am to
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student section is mostly stuck up in a corner without any courtside seats.


This is a problem for a lot of programs. Really hard to fix problem too since you'd have to basically boot high donor $ seats to fix
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:25 am to
quote:

I mean, what do you want him to say? Because the honest answer would be something along the lines of: "You have to understand that Alabama is a school that spent decades building a culture of 'only football matters' around their athletics program. I'm trying to change that, but I'm also only the second AD you've ever had who didn't play football at this school, and the other one gave you Mike Dubose. Most people in their 20s and 30s have not amassed the kind of wealth that allows them to simply give away 6 and 7 figure sums, and why don't you try asking for money for a new basketball arena from some 67 year old whose sole interest in the sport is how many Tide Pride points he gets from the courtside seats he has used less than 20 times in the 14 years he has had them. Get back to me and let me know how it went, because if you've got any helpful tips I'm all ears."


Our atmosphere would get a whole let better if we could assign unused lower-level tickets to students after the tip, or just stopped checking after like the under 10 mark in the first half and let students or people from the upper levels move down into the empty seats at a certain point.

There is zero point whatsoever in having empty seats in the 4th row during the 2nd half with 1,000 people in the upper level.

I know you still want to give the late arrivers a chance to get to their seats, but there has to be a pragmatic way to let fans already in the arena fill in the closer seats at a certain point.

Posted by TrojanTide
Member since Mar 2021
2203 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:31 am to
Not ranked in the AP top 25, not 100% surprised but thought we might sneak in beating Baylor.

LSU still ranked at 25? mind boggling
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:32 am
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