Started By
Message
re: Tide Hoops | Please Anchor
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:29 am to PaulsBunions
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:29 am to PaulsBunions
So at this point in the season, we have the best 3 wins in the country, along with some terrible losses.
My question is: would you have rather beaten the teams we should've and lost to Gonzaga, Houston, and Baylor, while splitting with LSU and Tennessee? Or would you take our current record?
Is 16-5 with losses to 4 top-10 teams better than 14-7 with 3 top-ten wins?
My question is: would you have rather beaten the teams we should've and lost to Gonzaga, Houston, and Baylor, while splitting with LSU and Tennessee? Or would you take our current record?
Is 16-5 with losses to 4 top-10 teams better than 14-7 with 3 top-ten wins?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:47 am to mistaken4193
quote:
This answer pisses me off. They can do work on BDS or anything to do with football at the snap of a finger. But with basketball it’s always a process.
I mean, what do you want him to say? Because the honest answer would be something along the lines of: "You have to understand that Alabama is a school that spent decades building a culture of 'only football matters' around their athletics program. I'm trying to change that, but I'm also only the second AD you've ever had who didn't play football at this school, and the other one gave you Mike Dubose. Most people in their 20s and 30s have not amassed the kind of wealth that allows them to simply give away 6 and 7 figure sums, and why don't you try asking for money for a new basketball arena from some 67 year old whose sole interest in the sport is how many Tide Pride points he gets from the courtside seats he has used less than 20 times in the 14 years he has had them. Get back to me and let me know how it went, because if you've got any helpful tips I'm all ears."
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:54 am to Robot Santa
It would be interesting to learn how much profit is actually made from basketball each year. If there is a profit.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:10 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
quote:
It would be interesting to learn how much profit is actually made from basketball each year. If there is a profit.
We average around $5 million in profit annually, but those numbers were from Avery years. To put it in perspective, Kentucky is around $30 million in profit annually. Louisville is right behind them. No one else is even close.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:17 am to Robot Santa
5 million profit is better than a loss, but it must not be moving the folks with the shovels.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:17 am to Robot Santa
Damn….that pretty much sums it up perfectly
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:46 am to Chadaristic
Bracketmatrix puts together bracketologists and ranks them based on previous years. Here are the highest ranking ones that have recently released brackets and where they have Bama. Not all of them regularly put out predictions. And some of them predict how the teams will end versus where they are now
2. Delphi-Highest 7-seed before we beat Baylor
3. Heat Check-7 Seed before we beat Baylor
4. Weber Sports-6 Seed before we beat Baylor
6. The Pulse-2nd Highest 7 seed before we beat Baylor
8. 1-3-1 Sports-Highest 6 (Current)
9. Bracketville-4 Seed (Current)
10. D-Rating-5 Seed (Current)
11. Oak Creek-7 Seed before we beat Baylor
19. Jon Teitel-Highest 6 Seed (Current)
21. Making the Madness-4 Seed (Current)
22. Rocco Miller-6 Seed before we beat Baylor
29. Graham Doeren Bracketology-5 Seed (Current)
2. Delphi-Highest 7-seed before we beat Baylor
3. Heat Check-7 Seed before we beat Baylor
4. Weber Sports-6 Seed before we beat Baylor
6. The Pulse-2nd Highest 7 seed before we beat Baylor
8. 1-3-1 Sports-Highest 6 (Current)
9. Bracketville-4 Seed (Current)
10. D-Rating-5 Seed (Current)
11. Oak Creek-7 Seed before we beat Baylor
19. Jon Teitel-Highest 6 Seed (Current)
21. Making the Madness-4 Seed (Current)
22. Rocco Miller-6 Seed before we beat Baylor
29. Graham Doeren Bracketology-5 Seed (Current)
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 8:53 am to Glorious
We need to win one of the Auburn or Kentucky games
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:08 am to Warmth in Winter
quote:I'm less worried about winning one of these two than I am about beating Ole Miss on the road right after that.
We need to win one of the Auburn or Kentucky games
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:18 am to TideCPA
Against Baylor, Alabama Basketball Proved Once Again that It Can Beat Anyone
The Crimson Tide has now beaten three of last year's Final Four teams and its five wins over ranked opponents ties Marquette for the most in the country this season.
(prove it again on Tuesday!)
The Crimson Tide has now beaten three of last year's Final Four teams and its five wins over ranked opponents ties Marquette for the most in the country this season.
(prove it again on Tuesday!)
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:10 am to PaulsBunions
quote:
Youre absolutely right. Lot of words to say nothing at all consequential.
If there is a silver lining in Byrne's delay, it is that I can still afford my Rebounder Club seats at $200 TP donation, and I like where I sit. Byrne's current ploy of calling packed Coleman crowds merely 10K or so is part of his ploy to build a 10K seat arena that cuts out all but season ticket holders and sends me to the rafters. Never once has Byrne addressed the terrible situation of Auburn, Tenn, Ky fans sittting in prime Tide Pride seats, even floor seats, because those corporate and big donor owners rarely go to basketball games and just sell their tickets to Auburn and Kentucky fans on Stub Hub. I seriously doubt Byrne cares who sits in the seats as long as wealthy donors and corporations pay for the seats. You will see many opposing fans and business opportunities sitting in the prime seats at the new arena, but many fewer of the long term (40 plus years of season tickets like me) ticket holders at the games - we won't be able to afford the rafters. I will likely miss Coleman and seeing loyal, true, old time Bama fans at the games.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:16 am to Goombaw
I think if you have to choose your better off with the high quality wins under your belt when it comes to metrics and ultimately tournament seeding. With our non-conference wins we will be in the tournament with a .500 league record and it's really not going to be a debate.
This team is capable of more, though.
This team is capable of more, though.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:20 am to Warmth in Winter
quote:
We need to win one of the Auburn or Kentucky games
If we are trying to sneakily grab a 3 seed then yes. But if we just beat everyone we are supposed to beat (lol), then we end up 20-11 and are probably a 5 seed.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:32 am to AbSnopes
anything under 12,000 seats would be a disaster, and I dont think they will go there. IMO, there is really nothing wrong with the current facility. People complain on this board about the lighting, but there is plenty of light on the court. Do you really want to sit in bright lights?
They could put a lower ceiling and take out 3,000 seats and make the place feel smaller, compressed and loud. To bad most of you missed the Wimp days when it was packed and crazy loud. And, its a nicer facility now than it was back then.
They could put a lower ceiling and take out 3,000 seats and make the place feel smaller, compressed and loud. To bad most of you missed the Wimp days when it was packed and crazy loud. And, its a nicer facility now than it was back then.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:56 am to AbSnopes
quote:
corporate and big donor owners rarely go to basketball games and just sell their tickets
So I heard a couple years back a lot of those are actually UK fans/Ticket brokers largely to get SECT ticket priority, not just big donors/corporate.
From what I was told by an AU Assc AD, it is more expensive to Stubhub SECT tickets than to get other school priority through season tickets + Stubhub resale games.
quote:
anything under 12,000 seats would be a disaster,
For Coleman or a new arena? Coleman almost feels too big to go lighter than 12,000.
For new arenas, I think 10,000-12,000 is about right. Basketball is better the closer fans are to the court. Feel like ~12,000 is when arena has to build lower deck seats further horizontally which also pushing second deck back as well.
Also, smaller arenas can have flat roofs which are significantly better at trapping/bouncing crowd noise than domes/archers
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:01 am to IB4bama
The ceiling and lighting are down the list of Coleman's issues. The layout is outdated garbage and the student section is mostly stuck up in a corner without any courtside seats. The atmosphere is fine when the crowd is decent. It's an objectively unappealing venue though. It just is. Everything about how the seating is arranged and who gets to sit where screams "off campus, corporately opened multi-purpose venue", but it's an on campus facility. There is no reason why all those courtside seats that end up on TV should consistently go empty or be full of opposing fans while the packed student section is pushed 50+ feet away from the court.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:03 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:06 am to AbSnopes
quote:
AbSnopes
This is the downside for me as well (while acknowledging the upside that has been discussed at length previously). It’s taken many many years after Tide Pride to get decent seats in Coleman (started 5 rows from the top and slowly worked my way down). I’m going to enjoy my seats and neighbors while they last because I’m certain I’ll be sent back to the rafters in a new arena. Arizona’s program requires ‘written commitments’ to capital campaigns in addition to priority club contributions and season tickets purchases to sit in premium sections of the arena.Two tickets with the lowest level of that commitment puts you in the rafters for the cost of just over $2,000 a season. Wouldn’t be surprised to see something along that structure here with the new arena. The price of progress I suppose.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:10 am to Robot Santa
quote:
student section is mostly stuck up in a corner without any courtside seats.
This is a problem for a lot of programs. Really hard to fix problem too since you'd have to basically boot high donor $ seats to fix
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:25 am to Robot Santa
quote:
I mean, what do you want him to say? Because the honest answer would be something along the lines of: "You have to understand that Alabama is a school that spent decades building a culture of 'only football matters' around their athletics program. I'm trying to change that, but I'm also only the second AD you've ever had who didn't play football at this school, and the other one gave you Mike Dubose. Most people in their 20s and 30s have not amassed the kind of wealth that allows them to simply give away 6 and 7 figure sums, and why don't you try asking for money for a new basketball arena from some 67 year old whose sole interest in the sport is how many Tide Pride points he gets from the courtside seats he has used less than 20 times in the 14 years he has had them. Get back to me and let me know how it went, because if you've got any helpful tips I'm all ears."
Our atmosphere would get a whole let better if we could assign unused lower-level tickets to students after the tip, or just stopped checking after like the under 10 mark in the first half and let students or people from the upper levels move down into the empty seats at a certain point.
There is zero point whatsoever in having empty seats in the 4th row during the 2nd half with 1,000 people in the upper level.
I know you still want to give the late arrivers a chance to get to their seats, but there has to be a pragmatic way to let fans already in the arena fill in the closer seats at a certain point.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:31 am to DLev45
Not ranked in the AP top 25, not 100% surprised but thought we might sneak in beating Baylor.
LSU still ranked at 25? mind boggling
LSU still ranked at 25? mind boggling
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:32 am
Latest Alabama News
Back to top



1




