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Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:20 am to
Nick Pringle

tide > hail state
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:22 am to
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:27 am to
first post in a while and did not see the last 10 minutes. Sorry but not going back to read previous pages.

Simple observations from an old coot from his recliner. Last nights game was inevitable after the previous 7. Last nights game is the type of games that will get a great team beat when they are making a run in the dance. It seemed like the team had no sense of urgency last night. The past 3 games, going of a bad memory, Miller has started slow. 14 looked like he wanted to be somewhere else. Too many turnovers and our bigs got abused in the paint. 10 finally hitting a couple of 3's in the first half were huge. WE are going to need more from him and 23. 23 plays with passion every time I see him. 66 in the dance will not cut it vs teams that we have already beaten this tear like Conzaga and Houston and NC, Etc
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:27 am to
Not the best performance, but on the other hand, that's a game we would have lost by 15 points last year. So, maybe it WAS the best performance. There's something to be said for winning anyway when shots aren't falling, the other team is playing well, and you're down most of the game.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:37 am to
The NET rankings make no sense to me. I understand the concept. But how Tennessee is still above us just does not make sense. We are literally better and every metric except number of quad 4 wins.
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
7041 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:46 am to
Almost feel sorry for State. Playing Tenn x 2, Ala x 2 and Aub already is a brutal schedule for anyone.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41014 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:52 am to
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Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46334 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:52 am to
Two positive takeaways from last night: winning is better than losing, and JQ is starting to look like he did around this time 2 years ago. If we get that guy down the stretch we can win it all.

Also,

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The NET rankings make no sense to me. I understand the concept. But how Tennessee is still above us just does not make sense. We are literally better and every metric except number of quad 4 wins.


It's because their defensive efficiency numbers are absolutely ridiculous. I think the best ever recorded by KP. That said, a lot of it is the product of beating up on trash teams. Once you remove those from the equation their defense goes from historically elite to very, very good for this season. Same reason UConn isn't in free fall anywhere but the standings. They built in so much of a cushion with early season efficiency that their wins and losses don't matter much now.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 7:53 am
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
7041 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:55 am to
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11,600 at the game tonight. Our arena is too big

Poor logic. A new arena won't fix the big-timers not showing up. That's the issue. Our attendance would've been 9000 if the arena was smaller. The tix were all mostly sold.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:59 am to
Oh, i get it. But i just don't understand how there isn't more of an emphasis of strength of schedule combined with efficiency. Who gives a shite how efficient you were vs quad 4 games? Playing an excessive amount of quad 4 non conference games should penalize a team, not inflate their efficiency rankings.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15032 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:01 am to
Agree. Don’t understand some on here wanting him to play less minutes… he is the best finisher at the rim of any of our guards and creates open shots for the rest
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:02 am to
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Poor logic. A new arena won't fix the big-timers not showing up. That's the issue.


It would be cool if there was a ticket donation program. Where If you knew you were not going to be able to attend and couldn't find somebody to use your tickets, you could put them in a pool and let students have them for free. It fill the seats and make it even louder. Trying to drive a minimum of an hour from Birmingham to catch a 8:00 p.m. game on a Wednesday is a difficult thing for some people. Football makes it much easier with Saturday games and fewer games.
Posted by Dolphin1
Madison, AL
Member since Mar 2018
156 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:04 am to
I hope the JQ critics saw how valuable he is to this team. When we need someone to put the ball on the floor and create, he's one of the best at doing that. You have to have that person who can attack that aggressive man or trapping defense.He gets into the lane and puts pressure on the defense.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:11 am to
JQ is our best PG. I love Sears, but honestly, he's more of a 2 guard. Bradley is great, and will continue to improve, but he can't shoot, so the defense doesn't have to respect that, and he can't drive on quicker defenders. Nobody can stay in front of JQ. And despite what some people here think, he's a great finisher.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46334 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:12 am to
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Playing an excessive amount of quad 4 non conference games should penalize a team, not inflate their efficiency rankings.


It does when the committee is making seeding decisions. Unfortunately there's probably not a good way to account for those games when measuring efficiency. Discounting them might punish teams who schedule weakly, but it would also unjustly reward teams who shite the bed against a terrible opponent.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:14 am to
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Don’t understand some on here wanting him to play less minutes…


5 weeks ago, that was me. But today, are you starting to look like the old Quinn. In a perfect world, all 3 of our PGs would play 25-30 minutes each. With certain guys are going to be hotter than others, which is how you should be dividing it, particularly in the second half of games. We will also be working Nimari back into the rotation, who's a 2 guard that might be able to play some at 3.

I think the difference with Quinn versus the other point guards is that when the other point guards had a bad night, they disappear. When Quinn has a bad night, you definitely notice exactly how bad of the night he's having. Some of his greatest strengths can quickly become major weaknesses. He either looks like Jason Williams or turns it over continuously. His good is very good, his bad is very bad. So I understand the mixed feelings amongst the fan base.

But he will be incredibly beneficial to have come tournament time if he's playing to his potential. You need leadership and experience to go deep into the tournament. He's freshman have been fantastic. But there's a reason teams filled with nothing but five stars don't win the championship every season.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:14 am to
I think what the exclusion of those sub-300 opponent games in the Torvik filters should show is that a tweak is needed to their formulas on the sliding scale of opponent adjustment.

There is no reason that 2 games against sub-300 ranked teams should result in the sort of difference that it does in terms of overall team efficiency. That's a clear flaw.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:16 am to
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I hope the JQ critics saw how valuable he is to this team. When we need someone to put the ball on the floor and create, he's one of the best at doing that. You have to have that person who can attack that aggressive man or trapping defense.He gets into the lane and puts pressure on the defense.


Eh, people were rightly saying how bad JQ looked early in the year - which he did. Most (not all) acknowledged that it probably had a lot to do with the injury and the rush back, but there was a fear that maybe he was just in reality much more the guy we saw last season and not hte guy from 2021.

He's clearly regained some burst, strength and most importantly confidence since SEC play started. He looks great and he's our best PG option moving forward.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46334 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:16 am to
Yep. When JQ is right he's one of the best bucket getters in the country. When JQ is not right he can singlehandedly throw a game away. Fortunately he's looking right more and more lately.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2251 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:19 am to
Bradley doesnt even try an outside shot. Zero chance of him playing in the nba without a great outside shot. The teams we play have the book on him now. They back off on him.
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