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***The Official Who is our Next OC Thread*** Update in OP Jan 4

Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 am
***UPDATE*** January 4

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SOURCE: Two of the coaches Nick Saban is considering for Alabama’s soon to be vacant offensive coordinator role: former Jets head coach Adam Gase and former Texans/Penn State head coach Bill O’Brien.

Three Reasons Why Hiring Bill O'Brien Was A Home Run

BRIAN MCDONALDJAN 2, 2014



1. Overcoming Sanctions at Penn State - Going 15-9 over the last two seasons at Penn State was a major accomplishment. Most assumed the penalties they received would be a death penalty for the program or at least hurt them severely over the next 5 years. Not only did they have scholarships cut, a bowl ban in place that would limit their appeal to the recruits they still had room to pursue, but they also lost several key starters who were allowed to transfer without sitting out a year after the scandal. To lose their leading rusher (Silas Redd), second leading receiver (Justin Brown), and an All-American kicker (Anthony Fera) on top of the already departing seniors would be a push off the cliff for most teams.

Going 8-4 in 2012 with everything that happened around that program was amazing, equal to an 11-1 type season under normal circumstances in my opinion; no surprise that he was named the national coach of the year.

2. Quarterback Development -

Bill O'Brien's experience with Tom Brady as the Patriots quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator, and how he developed Matt McGloin and Christian Hackenberg at Penn State, gives me confidence that he knows what to look for in a quarterback and how to get the best out of his quarterbacks. In 2012 his quarterback Matt McGloin completed 60.5% of his passes with 24 touchdowns to only 5 interceptions; all career bests. Over his previous two seasons before O'Brien arrived, McGloin completed 54% of his passes with 22 touchdowns to 14 interceptions. With O'Brien in 2012, McGloin led the conference in completions, passing yards, passing touchdowns, and was fourth in passer efficiency. Without O'Brien, McGloin wouldn't be in the NFL. This year in 2013, his freshman quarterback Christian Hackenberg finished third in the conference in passing yards, and had a 2/1 touchdown to interception ratio (20/10). O'Brien can clearly coach up his quarterbacks, a valuable trait to have considering the Texans will likely select a QB with the first overall pick in the upcoming NFL draft.

3. Creative Offense - For a guy who was once applauded as an offensive genius, Gary Kubiak's offense looked pretty anemic over the last several seasons. In 2010 the Texans averaged 6.0 yards per offensive play. That average dropped to 5.7 in 2011, to 5.5 in 2012, and to 5.1 this season. Don't get me wrong, his offense had some good years, but the game is moving in a different direction.

Kubiak's scheme is solid, but requires too many things to go well in order to succeed. What I mean by that is, you can win with defense and a strong running game, but an explosive pass offense that picks up yards in big chunks gives you better odds. If your offense depends on three and four yard gains to move the ball, it necessarily takes you longer to move into scoring range and allows more opportunities for a mistake. That type of run first system also puts you in a bad position whenever you fall behind by more than one score. Kubiak's passing game depends on using formations that make pass plays look like run plays before the snap. If the run wasn't a threat, the Texans passing game fell apart. Of course, some of that is on the quarterback, but not all of it is. Nearly every new rule in recent years has favored the passing game; they need a new coach that understands how to take advantage of that. That's not to say that they should abandon the run, but at least be more creative in how its executed like we've seen in Philadelphia and San Francisco. Instead of running to set up the pass, I believe they need to pass to back defenders off the line of scrimmage and force opponents to put in an extra defensive back, then punish them with the run. The Patriots are considered to be a modern, pass-first team, but have finished inside the top 10 in rushing yards in each of the last two seasons; the Texans should adopt that same offensive philosophy.

In 2011 when Bill O'Brien was the Patriots offensive coordinator, they averaged 6.3 yards per play (higher than any Texans team under Kubiak) and finished 3rd in points scored. In 2012 at Penn State, Bill O'Brien's offense ranked second in the conference in passing yards per game and tied for second in passing touchdowns per game. This season Penn State finished third in the conference in passing yards per game. Below is a description of his offense from The Sideline View:

"O'Brien favors an up-tempo offense mixing a power running game with inside and outside zone and a play-action passing attack as a counter. While Chip Kelly's offense may not be the norm around NFL circles within two or three years, I do think O'Brien's will be as tempo will likely continue to catch on around the league while still utilizing more traditional running and passing attacks."

The use of an up-tempo offense is key in my opinion. Kubiak's system lived by the motto of "take what the defense gives you," which is a defeatist attitude to me. Much prefer an offense that attacks and forces the tempo and style of the game, not to mention the added benefit of tiring out the opposing defense. Just look at the top 10 teams in offensive yards per game this season in the NFL; almost every team in the top 10 is a team that uses an uptempo offense. Six of those top seven teams in offensive yards per game, and five of the top six in yards per play this season made the playoffs. Finally the Texans offense will join teams like the Patriots, Broncos, Eagles, Saints, and Packers in the 21st century.

This was absolutely the correct hire, but by no means is it a guarantee that they'll win multiple championships. It does show however that to Bob McNair's credit, he and the rest of the Texans brain trust identified their shortcomings under Kubiak and what qualities made other teams consistent winners at a high level. Bill O'Brien comes off as a hardcore football lifer with a great understanding on how to win football games; I would be surprised if he failed in Houston.




How funny would it be to hire Herman ?

He was considered one of the best offensive minds in the game when Texas hired him, and he would probably keep our pipeline into Texas flowing.

Just a thought.

Who ya got ?
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 11:39 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:59 am to
Have to wait until black monday in the NFL, I think, to get a full list.

Norm Chow is the only Carroll era OC left that we haven't had, right?
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:59 am to
We need a DC as well.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:59 am to
I don't think there are many assistants out there that are as good as Sark. Most will be a downgrade.
Posted by pmacattack
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:01 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:01 am to
I know this is the easy answer but I truly trust Saban on these.

He hired Kiffin and Sark when 90% of the world laughed and thought they were jokes. Now they are 2 of the 5-6 most praised offensive coaches in the country.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:01 am to
Needs to be a good hire. Don’t need Bryce trying to follow Sark out the door
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:01 am to
I just hope it is someone who keeps the same style that we have had with Kiffin/Sark
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:02 am to
Herman wouldn't be a bad hire.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:04 am to
I imagine every solid offensive mind is sending Saban their resume. It’s a guarantee to a head coaching job with some of the best athletes in the country at your disposal.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:04 am to
Lebby from Ole Miss is probably a name that will pop up quickly.

Milwee as well, though not sure if he's quite experienced enough.
Posted by labamafan
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:04 am to
I’d like Joe Brady just to frick with LSU fans.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Who ya got ?


Joe Brady
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20447 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Norm Chow is the only Carroll era OC left that we haven't had, right?



Is he still alive?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:05 am to
I know Bryce likes Sark, but Bryce is most likely the starter next year here. It would make no sense to leave a possible starting job on a top college team.
Posted by LockDown
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:06 am to
Yeah, after his stints with the Titans and UCLA, his luster wore off a bit.
Posted by Panthers4life
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:06 am to
I wonder if AJ milwee rescind his acceptance with Arkansas State job just to call plays for Alabama?

Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I just hope it is someone who keeps the same style that we have had with Kiffin/Sark


Kiffin had great results, but he did do a lot of gimmicky stuff, and he would always feature a player to an unbalanced degree.

This pro offense under Sark has been a thing of beauty.

Tom Herman offensive scheme was built from spread concepts, but emphasized a power running game.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:08 am to
quote:

I’d like Joe Brady just to frick with LSU fans.


Yeah, but it is known that he does not like to recruit.
Posted by PowHound
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Needs to be a good hire. Don’t need Bryce trying to follow Sark out the door


Possibility if Mac Doesn't go pro. It is a deep QB class, but Mac can't improve his stock, and he has his degree so you gotta think he gone.
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