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re: The new Alabama abortion law, like it or no?

Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:09 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50516 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:09 am to
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Absolutely nobody is doing that. But that's your debate style - create straw men to prove your point and argue in bad faith.



This is his exact quote, which I included in my post:

quote:

I'd say both sides that advocate violence are either being deceived, or are deceiving others for their own gains.


People who advocate violence from an Islamic perspective are appropriately interpreting their holy books. Stating otherwise IS an attempt to make it look peaceful.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:21 am to
That's your interpretation of the Islam faith, or likely the interpretation of the site you linked that you've adopted as your own. A quote from that site...

quote:

TROP is a non-partisan, fact-based site which examines the ideological threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom.


Sure sounds like an unbiased source that doesn't resort to cherry-picking items to fit their agenda.



Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44383 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:38 am to
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People who advocate violence from an Islamic perspective are appropriately interpreting their holy books.


Care to explain why so few Muslims get it right then? Because actively advocating for violence simply is not widespread in the Muslim world, as much as you may want it to be.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 12:28 pm to
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I think the fruits of female-led churches speak for themselves. These churches are always at the forefront of the turn away from Biblical Christianity and loose interpretation of the Bible.


Brother, I'm not going to get upset at you or argue with you. I'm just going to put you in the category of "person so ignorant that they aren't worth talking to." Take care.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 12:38 pm to
If people make laws based on Christianity, then they are leaving the door open to one day be under Sharia law. Just because the religion you believe in is in control, it seems like a good idea to base laws on it. One day your religion might not be in charge, and you have allowed a precedent to be set.

I'm not the best Christian, by a long shot. (I like drinking and women ) I do know that I don't want to be under Sharia law or anything like that. So, it would be hypocritical of myself to expect other religions to follow my laws.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4357 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:04 pm to
So you think the Muslims will see how tolerant we Christians have become and become more "open minded"?

Apparently, in some minds, a Christian bakery refusing to do a "gay wedding" is the equivalent of tossing a gay person off of a building.


This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
Where did I say that? I said that I didn't want to be a nation with laws set in place by religion. I clearly said that I don't want to be under Sharia law
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4357 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:13 pm to
What Christians do or don't do won't affect Muslims one bit. So what difference does it make whether or not Christians oppose abortion. I guarantee you once muslims have the numbers here, they'll be no abortion anymore and your sister will be under a burka.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:14 pm to
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I guarantee you once muslims have the numbers here, they'll be no abortion anymore and your sister will be under a burka.

Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:16 pm to
Again, I don't want laws based on religion because it sets a precedent and leaves an opening for Sharia law in the future.

This is all I'm going to say about it with you, because I can't stand you and you don't like me. Have a good day
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4357 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:21 pm to
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This is all I'm going to say about it with you, because I can't stand you and you don't like me. 


Add "hate" to your list

Beer
Women
Hatred

Shall we go for #4?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:22 pm to
Quit judging. I never said hate. I just don't like you. If you're going to judge at least be intelligent enough to get it correct
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17925 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:40 pm to
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The Islamic holy books do advocate violence.

Not into old testament at all huh? Here's a quick excerpt from deuteronomy 13...
quote:

6 i“If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife 3of your bosom, or your friend kwho is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall lnot 4consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to mdeath, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

Seems quite islamic to me
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1806 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:34 am to
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Not into old testament at all huh? Here's a quick excerpt from deuteronomy 13...


I would have assumed you knew that the law commanded in Deut was not given to the world but only to the nation of Israel. But more importantly, the Mosaic law has been openly replaced with the NT which for various reasons does not support the commands of the Mosaic law.

Islam's holy book continues to advocate physical violence against those who disagree with them. But I assume you know this.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17925 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 6:10 am to
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I would have assumed you knew that the law commanded in Deut was not given to the world but only to the nation of Israel. But more importantly, the Mosaic law has been openly replaced with the NT which for various reasons does not support the commands of the Mosaic law.

Islam's holy book continues to advocate physical violence against those who disagree with them. But I assume you know this.

Glad they don't send billions of our hard earned tax dollars to this Israel place. It sounds sketchy af.
Posted by BamaWins15
Member since Sep 2015
4612 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:24 pm to
Great law. 1000 percent behind every word.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:44 pm to
Apologies if this has already been discussed. One of UA's biggest donors (Culverhouse) is lashing out at the university over this abortion law. I'm no fan of the law, but Culverhouse is in the wrong here. UA had nothing to do with this.

University of Alabama to return donor’s $21.5 million gift

Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
965 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:58 am to
Yeah he comes off as a prick in this. Just because you donate a huge sum of money doesn't mean you should dictate the actual school you should only be able to dictate where and how that money is used. Like you said though, how is it UA's fault about the abortion law? Unless he is saying the legislatures that voted for it were UA Law alumni than his argument doesn't hold water.

Anyway I'm actually happy his name won't be associated with the law school anymore. It was kind of confusing having a business school named after his dad and then a law school named after the son. They should be separate names for the schools within the University.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:40 am to
A lot of production companies like Disney are saying they won’t film movies in Georgia anymore because of their new abortion law too.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20770 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:14 pm to
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A lot of production companies like Disney are saying they won’t film movies in Georgia anymore because of their new abortion law too.



Which is ridiculous because they’ll say that, then turn around and have no problem filming in some country that has stricter laws for abortion, LGBTs, etc.

A lot of virtue signaling going on relative to this topic.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 4:30 pm
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