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The future direction of the program
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:29 pm
We know that two factors had an impact on this season:
(1) OC Coach Grubb failing to come/remain as OC
(2) OL Coach Scott Huff going with Grubb instead of coming to Alabama
What would the season have looked like if these 2 coaches had came to UA?
Sheridan was promoted to OC. No, he didn’t play QB, but he did an average at best job at OC this year. He could not make any in game adjustments. The offense regressed throughout the year, and the OL played poorly during most of the year.
Wommack was hired as DC. It took him several games to get his feet up under him, but the defense did show improvement, especially in the last few games of the year.
Concerns I have for the program include the lack of team discipline and the disconnect/judgement shown by Coach DeBoer.
We have had lack of discipline show up in many games, foremost Vandy and Michigan, although several other examples should be highlighted.
The job of any head coach is to win games. That means to play the players most capable of winning those games. Game after game, he continued to trot out a QB who was ineffective. At least he should have pulled Jalen to let him settle down. It was painfully obvious that Jalen was absolutely out of sorts in many games, especially Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Michigan. I understand defending your QB, but comments about how much the program means to Milroe as a reason not to pull him show a lack of awareness.
I support Coach DeBoer, but I am concerned about his judgement and the disconnect he shows. Next year will give us more accurate insight into what he will be like as a coach, hopefully. I myself am not encouraged about the football program’s future direction at this point. Is it too early to pull the ripcord? Yes. But if next year is a repeat, we will be doing another coach search after year 3 for Coach DeBoer. He will, I believe be given 3 years to get this program back to where it should be: as the top program in college football.
(1) OC Coach Grubb failing to come/remain as OC
(2) OL Coach Scott Huff going with Grubb instead of coming to Alabama
What would the season have looked like if these 2 coaches had came to UA?
Sheridan was promoted to OC. No, he didn’t play QB, but he did an average at best job at OC this year. He could not make any in game adjustments. The offense regressed throughout the year, and the OL played poorly during most of the year.
Wommack was hired as DC. It took him several games to get his feet up under him, but the defense did show improvement, especially in the last few games of the year.
Concerns I have for the program include the lack of team discipline and the disconnect/judgement shown by Coach DeBoer.
We have had lack of discipline show up in many games, foremost Vandy and Michigan, although several other examples should be highlighted.
The job of any head coach is to win games. That means to play the players most capable of winning those games. Game after game, he continued to trot out a QB who was ineffective. At least he should have pulled Jalen to let him settle down. It was painfully obvious that Jalen was absolutely out of sorts in many games, especially Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Michigan. I understand defending your QB, but comments about how much the program means to Milroe as a reason not to pull him show a lack of awareness.
I support Coach DeBoer, but I am concerned about his judgement and the disconnect he shows. Next year will give us more accurate insight into what he will be like as a coach, hopefully. I myself am not encouraged about the football program’s future direction at this point. Is it too early to pull the ripcord? Yes. But if next year is a repeat, we will be doing another coach search after year 3 for Coach DeBoer. He will, I believe be given 3 years to get this program back to where it should be: as the top program in college football.
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:37 pm to BCBAMA
We'd only have maybe 1 loss if we had a qb worth a flip. Pretty much most of the losses can be attributed to horrendous qb play. DeBoer does deserve blame for not yanking him. It sucks cause I think he feels like he "owed" it to Milroe cause he held the team somewhat together when he was hired. It was a huge mistake on his part. Hopefully he never does this shite again.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:42 pm to BCBAMA
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He will, I believe be given 3 years to get this program back to where it should be: as the top program in college football.
All he had to do was maintain the program. Not end a 16 year streak of winning at least 10 games, not end Alabama's 16 year streak of finishing in the top 10, not failing to make the playoffs, not losing 4 games in a season for the first time in 17 years, not having the first losing road record in 17 years and not losing to Vanderbilt for the first time since the early 80s.
Twelve teams made the playoffs this year and none were named Alabama. If Alabama isn't in the playoffs next year, Alabama needs a new football coach.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:43 pm to remaster916
You gonna write the $60 million check?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:55 pm to InkStainedWretch
Byrne fired before deboer, prob.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:59 pm to Crimsonpirate23
Maybe. But you know, if we kick arse next season all this will be forgotten.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:02 pm to remaster916
Need and get are two different things.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:29 pm to BCBAMA
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(1) OC Coach Grubb failing to come/remain as OC
(2) OL Coach Scott Huff going with Grubb instead of coming to Alabama
Yeah it was a kick in the balls when they left. The entire transition and timeline was just brutal. I don't blame Grubb or any college coach for saying frick this shite and going to the NFL.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:52 pm to Dubosed
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I don't blame Grubb or any college coach for saying frick this shite and going to the NFL.
And yet I am lambasted for posting the same thing here. I mean, these coaches aren’t stupid, they see what we see. Chip Kelly and the coach who took the DC job in Green Bay both left college head coaching jobs to be assistants. They don’t want any part of dealing with this crap in college ball now. Dan Lanning and Sark are sitting in the catbird seats of CFB because their respective schools have DEEP NIL pockets. Otherwise one of them would probably be the Alabama coach now.
We may never know how good or not DeBoer really is simply due to the relatively limited resources UA has in that regard. There are a handful of schools who have F-U level NIL funds, and Alabama isn’t one of them.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:55 pm to BCBAMA
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What would the season have looked like if these 2 coaches had came to UA?
The exact fricking same and everyone here would have been calling Grubb a fraud. Evidently you guys don't realize Milroe was the root cause of three of our four losses. The guy can't do anything successfully except frick up.
Milroe is incapable of being repaired or "coached up". An OC is better off trying to turn a 75 year old double amputee into Tom Brady.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:58 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Exactly. DeBoer and Sheridan tried to make chicken salad out of chicken shite with what they inherited.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:04 pm to remaster916
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All he had to do was maintain the program.
pretty unrealistic take.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:04 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Milroe did not improve a damn bit from the 2022 Texas A&M start to the 2024 Reliaquest Bowl Michigan start. He's the exact same player then as he was yesterday. No pocket awareness, cannot see the field and misses open receivers, turnover prone, can run fast in a straight line but not elusive at all.
Nothing changed. 4 years in college and 3 different OCs. None of them were able to get through to him for a breakthrough where he became a passable college quarterback.
The concerns I have are that nobody could establish their superiority to Milroe in practice. We better hope the UDub transfer was just being stashed for development or Russell is big time. I have my doubts that Ty Simpson will ever start a down here at this juncture. Two different coaching staffs went with Milroe over him.
Everyone will dream up some sort of conspiracy or imagine that DeBoer staked Milroe's position in the name of roster continuity. Neither makes much sense to me. The QB room is in terrible shape after BoB and, to a lesser extent, Rees.
Nothing changed. 4 years in college and 3 different OCs. None of them were able to get through to him for a breakthrough where he became a passable college quarterback.
The concerns I have are that nobody could establish their superiority to Milroe in practice. We better hope the UDub transfer was just being stashed for development or Russell is big time. I have my doubts that Ty Simpson will ever start a down here at this juncture. Two different coaching staffs went with Milroe over him.
Everyone will dream up some sort of conspiracy or imagine that DeBoer staked Milroe's position in the name of roster continuity. Neither makes much sense to me. The QB room is in terrible shape after BoB and, to a lesser extent, Rees.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:16 pm to BCBAMA
quote:Yep
The job of any head coach is to win games.
quote:You have no idea whether that’s exactly what he did or not. He certainly thinks he did.
That means to play the players most capable of winning those games.
quote:How did the others look when they played? Not better unfortunately.
Game after game, he continued to trot out a QB who was ineffective.
quote:If I thought for a second doing so would get him to quit staring down a receiver I’d agree with you. Every defensive coordinator in the SEC knew it, and only pure talent at WR was able to overcome that at times.
. At least he should have pulled Jalen to let him settle down
Off season I hope to see OL coach change. It’s pretty fisking hard to do anything as bad as our line play was at times. Getting a decent tackle from somewhere would help immensely.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:02 pm to remaster916
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Not end a 16 year streak of winning at least 10 games, not end Alabama's 16 year streak of finishing in the top 10, not failing to make the playoffs, not losing 4 games in a season for the first time in 17 years, not having the first losing road record in 17 years and not losing to Vanderbilt for the first time since the early 80s.
None of this shite matters in the long run. Saban, Bryant, and every other coach didn't win 10 games every year. This shite only matters to sidewalk fans that throat the idiots on ESPN and their meaningless stats. It's for trolling. Remember when Saban finally lost to an unranked team after winning like a billion in a row? It didn't matter. Just like none of the shite you listed matters.
Go. To. Your. Team. Board.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:09 pm to dominantD
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Sark are sitting in the catbird seats of CFB because their respective schools have DEEP NIL pockets
Yet Sark and Tejas are hanging on by a thread this season. He almost got his shite wrecked by ASU who has exactly one player.
OhioSt is going to run over Tejas. Sark is fool's gold. He was a shite coach that nobody wanted until Saban gave him a second or fifth chance. Tejas has had way too many close calls this year to be a championship team.
And even if they do somehow beat OhioSt, they're going back to Mercedes and play uga AGAIN?
Yall still wanna trade DeBoer for Sark if he goes 0-3 vs Kirby in one season??
Give me the guy that can win big games. Because he'll figure out the Vandys, Oklahomas, and Tenners.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:14 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Tejas has had way too many close calls this year to be a championship team.
Compared to who? Ohio State? UGA? Who both also have 2 losses?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:17 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Compared to who? Ohio State? UGA? Who both also have 2 losses?
Yeah. Both look poised to beat Tejas if/when they play them.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:18 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
I think that Texas against either one of those teams would be a really good game.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:22 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Compared to who? Ohio State? UGA? Who both also have 2 losses?
If Ohio State comes in having smelled their own shite for over a week (very well possible), Texas has more than enough defensive talent to slow them down. Their real problem is that the offense just stalls after they get a decent lead. I don't think they're that unlike the 2009 team in that way, who did get the necessary breaks to pull off a championship. Could be very wrong, but crowning Ohio State already seems foolish
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