Kashmir

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The wealthy planters are the ones who put the Democrats in place for the sole reason of Seceding.

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Then explain the sections of the south that voted for neither Democrat candidate, but instead voted for the Constitutional Party candidate, John Bell, and his VP candidate from MASSACHUSETTS. Bell carried the counties in the south where the largest concentrations of cotton/sugar cane were produced by the super planters.

One must recognize the great disparity in the word “planter.” Some say a planter was anyone owning 20 slaves. Some say 50.
The conservative planter I’m referring to owned hundreds of slaves and multiple plantations.
If they, as you put it, “put the Democrats in place for the sole reason of seceding,” why would they support the CU Party and neither the Northern Democrat (Douglas), or the Southern Democrat (Breckinridge)??
Google a county by county map of the 1860 election and you’ll see that in the Deep South, the CU Party support is exactly where the largest planters had their operations. You will also see lots of CU Party support in the upper south Great Smokies area who felt they didn’t have a dog in the fight and wanted to be left alone.

With all that said, there’s no doubt that a small “planter” would not share the same political views of a large planter.
The large planters had their money. They would survive the war with wealth. Even today there are descendants owning the same lands.
The small planters and dirt farmers would be ruined by the war they screamed for, not realizing that the South had little chance against the North.

bullshite. Conservatve Southern planters knew the cause was hopeless as soon as the radical, fire-eater Democrats seceded from the Union. They weren’t about to sacrifice their wallets to grow food crops for a lost cause.

Agrarian societies cannot defeat industrialized societies in a war with well defined boundaries no matter how much food is grown. Dying with a full stomach is not going to change the imbalance in steel production, railroads, and population.

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It’s hilarious how a single coach has literally broken a certain fan base into a million pieces

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Leave Nick Saban out of this!!

In conference: BA and rank

Neal .412 (3)
Fowler .397 (5)
Holt .289 (41)
Lemm .273 (51)
LeBron .207 (94)
Vaughn .205 (96)
Plattner .189 (108)
Osterhouse .184 (113)
Torres .167 (117)

Team BA: .259 (7)

Team Pitching: (4)

Team Fielding: (14)

It was a rough game because Bama melted down with a 3-1 lead in the 8th.

Giving up an 0-2 HR is inexcusable for a pitcher. SS had two errors on a routine ground ball for the third out, followed by another HR.

#2, 4, and 5 hitters were 1-13 at the plate with 5 Ks.

Heiberger getting lit up

Most ever for me

58-27-5
You will die with a losing record to Bama, King Dickrider! :lol:

If Brandel was paid for what he thinks he knows, he’d be a billionaire. If he was paid for what he actually knows, he’d be broke. He’s insufferable!! He always has to have the last or loudest say. He had ONE pga win and talks like he’s the authority on golf.

Lighting it up in conference at a cool .147. “Big Poppa” according to NFLoSerU. :lol:

I got a Crosman from Midway USA a few years ago. Scope is crap but the few shots I take after sighting in (before having to re-sight it) punishes a squirrel. 1200 fps.
You may have to buy several different pellets to see what works best. Mine loves Crosman HPs best.
I use a tripod rest and have killed dozens of squirrels with it, but I really need a better scope.