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Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:25 am to Centinel
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:25 am to Centinel
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The flu is more deadly to children than Covid, yet suddenly it's imperative that all children wear masks in school.
Why?
It's a combination of stay at home moms who haven't figured out that everything's back to normal and government officials who like the control we allowed them to take.
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:28 am to imjustafatkid
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None of this is true and you would never be able to come to this conclusion if you actually looked at anything I posted.
I have reviewed some of the things you’ve posted about this subject. One example is you claimed the vaccine created the current covid situation and that vaccinated people are “super spreaders’
In other words you’re a conspiracy nut
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:29 am to imjustafatkid
Just to further display why "vaccination rate" statistics are deceptive: natural immunity is totally ignored. They know exactly who all has been vaccinated, and they know exactly who all has previously had COVID, but for some reason they aren't reporting the numbers of people who have survived COVID and not yet been vaccinated. Why is that? Those people are better off than those of us who never caught COVID and have been vaccinated, and they should absolutely be considered in the numbers when they are trying to figure out if we have enough people vaccinated for their liking.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:30 am to C W
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I have reviewed some of the things you’ve posted about this subject. One example is you claimed the vaccine created the current covid situation and that vaccinated people are “super spreaders’
This is true. Vaccinated individuals are spreading the virus absolutely. There is no legitimate dispute to that statement.
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In other words you’re a conspiracy nut
This is an odd way to say "you're absolutely correct and I hate it."
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:32 am to imjustafatkid
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None of this is true and you would never be able to come to this conclusion if you actually looked at anything I posted.
Yeah, so in this thread I have already shown that one article you linked to that supported the use of Ivermeticin to treat COVID has since been retracted by the Editor-in-Chief of the site who posted it because it was BS.
As for this statement you made...
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many folks try to claim the VAERS data should not be relied upon because it's not verified
"Many folks" apparently includes the VAERS website itself! Check out the giant DISCLAIMER they have on their site.
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Key considerations and limitations of VAERS data:
-Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause.
-Reports may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information.
-The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines.
-VAERS data is limited to vaccine adverse event reports received between 1990 and the most recent date for which data are available.
-VAERS data do not represent all known safety information for a vaccine and should be interpreted in the context of other scientific information.
That is essentially trash data that can be manipulated to say whatever you want. Show me some real, verifiable data that doesn't come with a slew of caveats and disclaimers. Oh wait, you can't because of CoNsPiRaCiEs.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:37 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:39 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
The problem here is that you are using this information in a way that I did not, because you are invested in my well-reasoned response being something other than well-reasoned.
I never said VAERS was 100% accurate or that we should totally rely on it. For most age groups, this simply isn't true. Based on what undercover videos have shown, in at least some instances this is absolutely because these events aren't being reported at all.
I can't because that information won't exist until years from now. You won't be able to find anything of this sort from any source, which is why you're asking for it. The reality is, though, that children ABSOLUTELY have died from the vaccine. That is happening, that is fact, and the only conspiracy nuts are the ones saying it isn't. The CDC did a review of the VAERS data and confirmed that.
Since it is absolutely true that the vaccine has killed children, and it is absolutely true that children are less likely to die from COVID than from the flu, it is not reasonable to give this COVID vaccine to your children.
I never said VAERS was 100% accurate or that we should totally rely on it. For most age groups, this simply isn't true. Based on what undercover videos have shown, in at least some instances this is absolutely because these events aren't being reported at all.
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That is essentially trash data that can be manipulated to say whatever you want. Show me some real, verifiable data that doesn't come with a slew of caveats and disclaimers. Oh wait, you can't because of CoNsPiRaCiEs.
I can't because that information won't exist until years from now. You won't be able to find anything of this sort from any source, which is why you're asking for it. The reality is, though, that children ABSOLUTELY have died from the vaccine. That is happening, that is fact, and the only conspiracy nuts are the ones saying it isn't. The CDC did a review of the VAERS data and confirmed that.
Since it is absolutely true that the vaccine has killed children, and it is absolutely true that children are less likely to die from COVID than from the flu, it is not reasonable to give this COVID vaccine to your children.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:43 am to RollTide33
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That's a decent representation of the people who want what I'm saying to be wrong.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:45 am to imjustafatkid
It's really not worth my time to continue engaging with you, so instead, I'm going to go buy stock in Reynolds Consumer Products Inc. because you must be spending a fortune on aluminum foil for all your hats.
Let's revist this topic years from now when all that real, verifiable data that doesn't come with a slew of caveats and disclaimers is available.
Let's revist this topic years from now when all that real, verifiable data that doesn't come with a slew of caveats and disclaimers is available.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:47 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Let's revist this topic years from now when all that real, verifiable data that doesn't come with a slew of caveats and disclaimers is available.
I'll be happy to do that, because what I'm saying is absolutely true and already verifiable, as I have shown.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:06 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:14 am to RollTide33
Everything I've stated is absolutely correct, and no one has even attempted to dispute my statements. They simply distort what I've said because they can't argue with my actual statements.
Even if you disagree with all of the facts I've stated, the reality is that people under 30 are at such a low risk of death from COVID that it is not unreasonable for them to choose not to get ANY vaccine against it, much less a vaccine that absolutely has caused death and major illnesses.
Even if you disagree with all of the facts I've stated, the reality is that people under 30 are at such a low risk of death from COVID that it is not unreasonable for them to choose not to get ANY vaccine against it, much less a vaccine that absolutely has caused death and major illnesses.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:21 am to imjustafatkid
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Even if you disagree with all of the opinions I've stated
FIFY
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:25 am to imjustafatkid
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the reality is that people under 30 are at such a low risk of death from COVID that it is not unreasonable for them to choose not to get ANY vaccine against it
The death risk from chicken pox is extremely low as well, yet the vaccine is still part of the vaccination regimen for kids in every state. Death isn't the only outcome in the decision to vaccinate or not. For highly communicable diseases like chicken pox and Covid, it can be a decision to do what's good for society and your community to limit spread and hopefully eradicate the disease.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:39 am to The Spleen
Yes but this guy said the vaccine causes the current covid and vaccinated people are super spreaders. That’s not a distortion of his comments but a direct quote. Silly conspiratorial bs.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:57 am to RollTide33
It's appropriate that you used a gif of a gay icon since fatkid is absolutely petrified of them lol.
I don't know why we need another covid thread though, especially when it's just this moron of a neckbeard being, well, a moron neckbeard.
I don't know why we need another covid thread though, especially when it's just this moron of a neckbeard being, well, a moron neckbeard.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:49 pm to imjustafatkid
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The problem here is that you are using this information in a way that I did not, because you are invested in my well-reasoned response being something other than well-reasoned.
I never said VAERS was 100% accurate or that we should totally rely on it. For most age groups, this simply isn't true. Based on what undercover videos have shown, in at least some instances this is absolutely because these events aren't being reported at all.
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That is essentially trash data that can be manipulated to say whatever you want. Show me some real, verifiable data that doesn't come with a slew of caveats and disclaimers. Oh wait, you can't because of CoNsPiRaCiEs.
I can't because that information won't exist until years from now. You won't be able to find anything of this sort from any source, which is why you're asking for it. The reality is, though, that children ABSOLUTELY have died from the vaccine. That is happening, that is fact, and the only conspiracy nuts are the ones saying it isn't. The CDC did a review of the VAERS data and confirmed that.
Since it is absolutely true that the vaccine has killed children, and it is absolutely true that children are less likely to die from COVID than from the flu, it is not reasonable to give this COVID vaccine to your children.
My neighbor Traci parrots similar stuff as you. From all manner of weird "news source" as well. I respectfully disagree. She's got a pretty good temperament so she doesn't get bent out of shape about it. Plus she's a huge football fan, which is how we originally bonded, so the conversation always turns back to that anyway. And she makes awesome biscotti. At 44, we're the same age almost to the day with her being born just 2 days after me. Crazy right?? Anyways, they took her off the ventilator yesterday. It's just a matter of time now. She'll leave behind a husband and 4 children. The oldest is 16, the youngest 7. I spoke briefly to her mom yesterday as she brought a bunch of Traci's personal effects back from the hospital. I'm thinking of sharing your posts with them in hopes they might offer solace in this difficult time. It's a numbers game after all. Should be easy for them to understand.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:21 pm to imjustafatkid
I just got home from getting my COVID Booster Vaccine (3rd Pfizer shot), 6 months after my 2nd shot. So, will I become a super duper spreader? Or will the vaccine's side effects soon kill me?
This post was edited on 10/2/21 at 6:40 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:24 pm to TidalSurge1
No, but you are probably all up in that 5G network
Posted on 10/1/21 at 6:00 pm to Notorious1918
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Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
JUST IN - BBC presenter Lisa Shaw (44) died due to complications from the AstraZeneca #COVID19 vaccine just over three weeks after the first dose, a coroner concluded today.
People should be free to choose.
Meanwhile there are psychos walking this earth who thinks like this guy.
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