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Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75856 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 7:57 am to
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How are they supposed to work when half the people on this board alone won't wear the mask


Are you referring to the masks the manufacturers of said masks tell you they aren't effective on the package they come in?

Those masks?

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won't get the shots


I'd venture to say more than half of the people on this board have gotten at least one of the shots.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:14 am to
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If only 43% are fully vaccinated it won’t make much difference anyway.


Far more than that are vaccinated.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:31 am to
Just going by this but now it indicates 42%

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I scrolled down and found 42.49%. I guess the number didn’t change but i had rounded up
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 8:46 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:32 am to
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I hope they come up with an effective vaccine.


If only 43% are fully vaccinated it won’t make much difference anyway.

Seems like it'd make a big difference for the vaccinated people.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:36 am to
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Seems like it'd make a big difference for the vaccinated people.


Being vaccinated has made a difference for me as i feel safer when i have to be out in public. I said it won’t make much difference if only 43% are vaccinated, meaning we aren’t going to beat this anytime soon if 57% are not fully vaccinated.

I really don’t understand why so many refuse it considering it’s free snd if it helps even some then that’s better than none.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:37 am to
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Overall, 2,083,182 people or 42% of Alabama's population has been fully vaccinated.


They're twisting those numbers to deceive and manipulate you.

1. Not everyone in "Alabama's population" is even eligible for vaccination. We have a very large population of children under 12.

2. No one under 20 should take this vaccine in the first place, so I would remove them from the equation as well. The benefits do not outweigh the possible costs for that age group. Indeed, more appear to be dying from the vaccine than from COVID in that age group. Just another criminally under-reported fact.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:39 am to
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Just going by this but now it indicates 42%




And there are several counties in Alabama in the 20's and 30's.

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Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:44 am to
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No one under 20 should take this vaccine in the first place, so I would remove them from the equation as well. The benefits do not outweigh the possible costs for that age group. Indeed, more appear to be dying from the vaccine than from COVID in that age group. Just another criminally under-reported fact.

Got any valid proof of how many 12-20 year-olds have been killed by COVID vaccines?
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:48 am to
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They're twisting those numbers to deceive and manipulate you.

1. Not everyone in "Alabama's population" is even eligible for vaccination. We have a very large population of children under 12.




The vaccination rate in Alabama for 18-64 years olds is 45.5%, so even throwing out the two extreme groups(12-18, and 65+), Alabama's vaccination rate is pretty low and close to the number the other poster cited.

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Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:13 am to
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The vaccination rate in Alabama for 18-64 years olds is 45.5%, so even throwing out the two extreme groups(12-18, and 65+), Alabama's vaccination rate is pretty low and close to the number the other poster cited.


That's very reasonable, especially considering that there aren't really great reasons for anyone under 30 to be vaccinated. The potential costs just do not outweigh the potential benefits.

Alabama Population Demographics

Alabama has about 3,675,637 people over the age of 12 (they have ages 10-14 grouped, so I cut that age range in half). So if we're going based solely on "vaccine eligible" population, that's about 57%.

Now, if we're being more reasonable and only looking at people aged 21 and up, Alabama's population is then 3,124,317. This changes the vaccinated population to 67%.

And that's "fully vaccinated" people. Most people under the age of 40 have sufficient coverage with only one shot, so even using the "fully vaccinated" metric is deceptive. I saw multiple doctors between the time of my first and second doses of the vaccine, and they all said that one shot is providing sufficient coverage for my health and age group (I'm 39).
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:30 am to
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Got any proof of how many 12-20 year-olds have been killed by COVID vaccines?


Unfortunately, no. The best information we have right now is from VAERS, which is voluntarily provided, so the death numbers are low. As Project Veritas has shown in undercover videos, many doctors are refusing to report the adverse vaccine reactions and some are simply refusing to consider the vaccine as a cause of an adverse reaction (and thus not reporting this to VAERS). Thus, my statements are probably less alarming than they should be.

Summary of VAERS data through 9/17/2021

To be clear, many folks try to claim the VAERS data should not be relied upon because it's not verified, but the reality is that this is the best data we will have for quite some time. These numbers are absolutely underreported. The people making this argument are making the argument that the vaccine is doing MORE harm, not less. They just don't realize it.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:37 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:55 am to
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This is a pretty telling response on your part. Makes it clear that you have no rebuttal to what I've stated. I'm assuming you weren't expecting me to have well-reasoned responses.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
2776 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:02 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:02 am to
The fact is that as hyper politicized as this whole issue is, if people were legitimately dying in large numbers from the vaccines, we'd be hearing about it constantly. And save me the biased media counterargument. There would be more people at hospitals and medical facilities screaming it. Just look at the response when there were confirmed negative reactions to the J&J vaccine soon after roll out. They suspended administering it for a short time, and the number of effected people was very, very small.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Antarctica
Member since Aug 2018
9267 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:03 am to
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I'm assuming you weren't expecting me to have well-reasoned responses.


The mental gymnastics you're displaying in this thread are very impressive. Studies you cite to have been retracted, data that would support your argument doesn't exist because of conspiracies, etc.

"Well-reasoned" is not the term I'd use to describe your responses.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:06 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:11 am to
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This is a pretty telling response on your part. Makes it clear that you have no rebuttal to what I've stated. I'm assuming you weren't expecting me to have well-reasoned responses.

You proclaim your myopic and hyperbolic hot-takes are well-reasoned. But they actually spring from idiotic conspiracy theories, unsupported by reliable data and actual facts.

Maybe next, you'll double down on how it's "indisputable" that Ivermectin "absolutely" could've/would've already ended the COVID pandemic if not "criminally" withheld.
This post was edited on 10/2/21 at 6:46 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:18 am to
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if people were legitimately dying in large numbers from the vaccines, we'd be hearing about it constantly


I never said anything of the sort. I said the vaccine is more deadly to children than the virus, and that is true. The reality is that children simply do not die from the virus, so the vaccine being deadly at all for that age group makes the risk more than the reward.

ETA: I also think your premise is a little flawed. Many people are sounding the alarm about the vaccine and saying it is killing people, and it is absolutely more deadly than typical vaccines, but the risk from the vaccine seems lower than the risk from COVID for most age groups.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:20 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:21 am to
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Studies you cite to have been retracted, data that would support your argument doesn't exist because of conspiracies, etc.


None of this is true and you would never be able to come to this conclusion if you actually looked at anything I posted.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:22 am to
The flu is more deadly to children than Covid, yet suddenly it's imperative that all children wear masks in school.

Why?
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