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Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:58 am to younglombardi
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I'm totally amazed that no one has noticed the type of hits he takes. It wasn't just bad luck that got him injured. Tua has to learn how to take a tackle or he'll be nicked up again this upcoming season.
Jalen never got injured, huh? Well at least Tua never missed a start and Hurts would have missed several games this year due to his ankle injury if he were still the starter. Let's completely overlook that scenario. We have ppl questioning a kid's toughness when he clawed back from a high ankle sprain to play for his team. To play for his fans.
It's amazing to me that for ppl who claim to know a lot about this sport you all always go after the QB when that is the least of our concerns.
The whole Tua's ego has gotten too big story is absolute BS. His teammates love him. Tua is a leader. Tua can improve on some things like any player can but to think he is the reason we lost that Clemson game is ridiculous.
We need to quit relying on the RPO so much. Let's run the ball with Najee and B rob then play action pass. Defense needs to get back to form.
Tua is the best QB in the country and I'd take him over goldie locks. He had 2 bad reads but he threw some incredible passes in the Clemson game.
This fan base will turn on anyone if we lose and it's pretty sad tbh. Wait until Tua gets 100%. You fools don't realize how good he really is when he can run.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:22 am to CrimsonDynasty
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CrimsonDynasty
Excellent post!
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:31 am to CrimsonDynasty
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to think he is the reason we lost that Clemson game is ridiculous.
To be fair, unless I missed it, nobody in this thread has said that, and I don't think I've seen that on this forum.
That was a team loss, coaches included.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:33 am to CrimsonDynasty
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Jalen never got injured, huh? Well at least Tua never missed a start and Hurts would have missed several games this year due to his ankle injury if he were still the starter. Let's completely overlook that scenario. We have ppl questioning a kid's toughness when he clawed back from a high ankle sprain to play for his team. To play for his fans.
I'm not sure if the point I am trying to make was understood. Alls I am saying is if he learns to take tackles better it'll decrease his chance of injury.
I didn't once give my opinion on his toughness, I'm speaking on actual facts. Tua took too many unnecessary big hits (excluding the dirty plays). He spent more time in the tent/on the table than any player I've seen play at bama. That may actually speak to his toughness, where he kept fighting to play vs another player packing it in.
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:45 am to younglombardi
i think youre putting to much of it on tua. how many of those hits were the result of a blown olineman block and damien harris watching the defender run right by him?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:14 pm to crimsontater
Tua is a minor issue at best in comparison to our defense this past season. Minor at best!
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:27 pm to Shaft Williams
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our defense
I don't think I've seen a UA Saban coached defense play as badly, as often, as this past year.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:57 pm to younglombardi
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I'm not sure if the point I am trying to make was understood. Alls I am saying is if he learns to take tackles better it'll decrease his chance of injury.
I'm not going to question Tua's toughness, but the number of injuries he had in 2018 is concerning. He missed basically all of spring practice because he broke a bone in his hand. He tried to come back a week or two later and re-injured it and had to have a second surgery on his hand. That was all just in spring ball.
Fast forward to the season and he ends up with a mysterious knee injury that Saban downplayed the whole year, but every time Tua took a hit, he laid on the field like someone just shot him. Then he gets the ankle sprain and yet another surgery in the post-season. That's THREE significant injuries in his only season as a starter. I hope it was just some bad luck and he isn't injury prone, because we don't have Jalen on the bench to bail us out this year.
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:59 pm to tider04
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he ends up with a mysterious knee injury that Saban downplayed the whole year, but every time Tua took a hit, he laid on the field like someone just shot him
just to be clear, are you saying that you think he faked the injury?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:06 pm to John Milner
I think that he is saying is that Tua's knee seemed to be more injured than Saban led on.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:08 pm to John Milner
Combination of young coaches who could recruit and didn’t understand X’s and O’s. Anyone with half a life of coaching would have recognized Savion was the target and to blanket him the entire game, period.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:08 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Tua's knee seemed to be more injured than Saban led on.
not sure what he thinks but what you said is what I think, and it's not unusual for coaches to downplay an injury when it isn't something that may create long term problems for the guy and if he can play through it.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:09 pm to John Milner
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just to be clear, are you saying that you think he faked the injury?
How on earth would you get that from what I typed out? Of course I don't believe he faked an injury. The extent of the injury is certainly up for debate, as Saban made it out to be minor multiple times in the media and Jeff Allen and our medical team kept clearing him for full-contact, but there's no question he had a knee injury. One of three injuries he had in 2018, which is my primary concern relative to his health.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:10 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Combination of young coaches who could recruit and didn’t understand X’s and O’s.
yep. And which is why Saban hired some more experienced coaches. I think maybe he reacted just a little too much when UGA recruited so well for the 2018 class.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:12 pm to tider04
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How on earth would you get that from what I typed out
pretty much from the "mysterious knee injury"
and... "he laid on the field like someone just shot him"
parts of your post.
edit: but glad to see you don't think that. I don't either.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:13 pm to crimsontater
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i think youre putting to much of it on tua.
Not necessarily, maybe my perspective is a little different as I am a youth coach. Learning HOW to be tackled is a big point of emphasis in the early stages of development for our staff.
Some kids know how to deflect the impact or get down when they can see there are no other options. Then we have kids that are good players but get plastered often because they don't understand this concept.
I do agree that the defense was not great this year. The inside backers play was the WORST of the Saban era without a doubt.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:16 pm to CrimsonDynasty
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The whole Tua's ego has gotten too big story is absolute BS.
It isn’t though. I love Tua, he’s my avatar, but from what I’ve heard his seriousness at practice went down some. Straight from a players mouth, they were doing the Pat and Go drill which, requires a nice accurate throw. Tua had a few less than stellar throws and was posed the question by Enos do you want to hit it again to which he said no I got it. According to said player Tua would stay for hours if he was off in practice to keep working on it earlier in the year. Take for example the video of Tua practicing in the rain mid season. Now again, I love the kid, he’s awesome but something happened upstairs and we all saw it , now I’m hearing it from the locker room. It’s not like Falco vs the other dude who lost the locker room but enough to be noticed.
Kind of like he wasn’t turnover prone in practice. Just is what it is. My opinion, this humbled the shite out of him and we will be a doomsday machine next year.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:19 pm to CrimsonBoz
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My opinion, this humbled the shite out of him and we will be a doomsday machine next year.
I think that too. He seems to be a smart kid, and so I'm sure he's come to terms with the fact that he did, too often, go for the ESPN highlight passes when he should have checked down.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:20 pm to John Milner
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pretty much from the "mysterious knee injury"
and... "he laid on the field like someone just shot him"
parts of your post.
edit: but glad to see you don't think that. I don't either.
Both of those things are facts and neither suggest a fake injury. Bottom line is either Saban under-sold the severity of the knee injury, or Tua has perhaps a lower threshold for pain than some guys, but the injury was legit. Let's all hope he can have an injury free 2019. Kid is an elite talent, especially when he's healthy enough to use his wheels when things are covered down field. He was basically one dimensional for about 70% of the season after that knee injury. He's so much more dangerous when he's healthy enough to tuck and run too. Puts so much strain on a defense.
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