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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:10 am to Tw1st3d
There are easy enough ways to give Bo enough incentive to behave. Take a significant portion of his pay and put it into a deferred comp program where it vests over time and has a forfeiture clause for any misrepresentation. Should actually do this with all of the coaches to retain them for certain periods and prevent some of the unexpected turnover. And no, it won't always work...there will be some school that overpays for some assistant, but it will make them pay more for the assistants.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:26 am to biggsc
I’m with a consultant in Arkansas. Worked in Texas and Wyoming previously. Just havent been able to get back to Alabama yet.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:26 am to BamaReb
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There are easy enough ways to give Bo enough incentive to behave. Take a significant portion of his pay and put it into a deferred comp program where it vests over time and has a forfeiture clause for any misrepresentation. Should actually do this with all of the coaches to retain them for certain periods and prevent some of the unexpected turnover. And no, it won't always work...there will be some school that overpays for some assistant, but it will make them pay more for the assistants.
If a job tried to offer you that bullshite you would laugh in their fricking faces. Good luck trying to get anyone with any sense of their value to agree to that shite. 
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:28 am to CapstoneGrad06
Oh that’s pretty neat. Well someone like you would really help ALDOT. If you went to any Alabama home games this year, how about the downtown traffic construction.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:32 am to biggsc
I didn’t go to any home games this year. Was last in Tuscaloosa for A-Day in April.
I am watchful of transportation projects in Tuscaloosa though. Very interested in what AlDOT has planned. The City too.
I am watchful of transportation projects in Tuscaloosa though. Very interested in what AlDOT has planned. The City too.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:34 am to CapstoneGrad06
I understand protecting the program but people also desterve a second chance. I think hire the best coach available as long as he shows that he has learned from his failure.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:34 am to TidalSurge1
Was he involved in getting Simmons to MSU because I thought there was a lot of shady stuff going on with Simmons recruitment.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:36 am to labamafan
The best coach available would be the miss st DL coach.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:38 am to Tider95
Not only is he a good DL recruiter but he's a very good coach as well. He is Pickering's secondary recruiter, so perhaps he could help flip Pickering, should he come aboard.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:39 am to Tider95
Baker is from Baltimore too. Impressive resume. If he's the new DL coach I can dig it.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:39 am to DT55Forever1
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Was he involved in getting Simmons to MSU because I thought there was a lot of shady stuff going on with Simmons recruitment.
But unlike Bo he didn't get caught/lie to compliance. Not to mention he is a hell of a DL coach technique wise. Much rather have him.
Edit: Who downvotes straight facts about the reality of Bo davis?
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:51 am to Tider95
You're obviously not in a position valued enough to get that treatment, don't know how to negotiate and don't understand taxes. It happens all the time. I work in "that shite" everyday, so you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:53 am to BamaReb
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You're obviously not in a position valued enough to get that treatment, don't know how to negotiate and don't understand taxes. It happens all the time. I work in "that shite" everyday, so you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.
I understand my value and unless the benefits are stacked in my favor elsewhere in the position, I would not agree to something that would let my employer take any portion of the money they owe me, away from me. Doubly so if it is intended to prevent me from moving to a new job when I want to.
Doing some basic googling about deferred compensation in the form you describe, it appears to be heavily beneficial to the employer, not the employee. The tax implications seem to only be in special circumstances. Please tell me how that kind of compensation plan is beneficial for the person being hired.
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:54 am to Tider95
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Who downvotes straight facts about the reality of Bo davis?
Bo Davis fanboys.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:19 am to BleednCrimson02
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If Saban wants Bo Davis then Davis will be the new DL coach.
This isn't a shot at you, so don't get pissed. This is where I think people are just throwing shite on the wall and seeing what sticks. Bo was once here, lied to Saban and administrators and was cut loose. NCAA slapped a show cause on him that expires in April. Everyone just assumes that Bo is the DL coach that CNS wants. If the show cause only limits Bo from off campus recruiting, then why hasn't CNS made the hire already and just let Bo burn up the phone lines? Maybe CNS isn't as fond of Bo as what we the fans think?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:23 am to TheDrake
I always make it a point to downvote any post where someone is crying about downvotes. It's just a habit of mine that I can barely control.
Now, the MSU guy seems like a great hire. Would love to get him on board.
As far as the deferred package being beneficial to Bo Davis, obviously it would be a bit of a sacrifice but it would get his foot back in the college door, where there is big money to be made. If he puts up with that for one or two years, then he has schools all over trying to hire him. Let's not forget that Texas and USC both hired him as their DL coach after his time at Alabama. Not exactly like he's having to accept offers from Jax State to get a job. These big-time programs pay much better than the NFL position jobs, too.
Now, the MSU guy seems like a great hire. Would love to get him on board.
As far as the deferred package being beneficial to Bo Davis, obviously it would be a bit of a sacrifice but it would get his foot back in the college door, where there is big money to be made. If he puts up with that for one or two years, then he has schools all over trying to hire him. Let's not forget that Texas and USC both hired him as their DL coach after his time at Alabama. Not exactly like he's having to accept offers from Jax State to get a job. These big-time programs pay much better than the NFL position jobs, too.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:45 am to Tider95
I’m glad you understand your value. Your employer probably does as well. Deferred comp packages aren’t for everyone and some positions/fields don’t lend themselves to it. Saban and Alabama are in a position to negotiate almost anything they want at this point. Positions on the coaching staff are a proven springboard to bigger and better positions for high performers (even the castoffs seem to come out smelling like a rose). I would say they hold the leverage in most negotiations; especially in their coaches reform program.
"The tax implications seem to only be in special circumstances?" I assume you, like the vast majority of the working population, pay taxes. Does this make you feel "special?" The circumstance is that Americans that earn significant income (Bo would make $500,000 to $750,000 as the DL coach base on what Kool and Key made) also pay significant taxes unless that income is deferred in some manner until a later date. That income can also be positioned to earn returns (on a pre-tax basis) based on virtually anything. It is a fairly creative field with a variety of structures. Not everyone has to worry about taxes at that level or positions that allow them to negotiate how and when they are paid. Anytime you see employment agreements or insurance policies mentioned you can typically assume there is some deferred compensation or severance package involved. Most people involved in these arrangements really don’t want the arrangement to receive a lot of attention.
I'm done on this ... back to your regularly scheduled programming.
"The tax implications seem to only be in special circumstances?" I assume you, like the vast majority of the working population, pay taxes. Does this make you feel "special?" The circumstance is that Americans that earn significant income (Bo would make $500,000 to $750,000 as the DL coach base on what Kool and Key made) also pay significant taxes unless that income is deferred in some manner until a later date. That income can also be positioned to earn returns (on a pre-tax basis) based on virtually anything. It is a fairly creative field with a variety of structures. Not everyone has to worry about taxes at that level or positions that allow them to negotiate how and when they are paid. Anytime you see employment agreements or insurance policies mentioned you can typically assume there is some deferred compensation or severance package involved. Most people involved in these arrangements really don’t want the arrangement to receive a lot of attention.
I'm done on this ... back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:47 am to BamaReb
The tax confusion comes from the fact that the highest tax bracket is only 35%. Deferring the compensation does not appear to significantly reduce that percentage, just pushes the tax pain further down the road.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:49 am
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